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Featured Francis Chan, leaning Romanist?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by rlvaughn, Jan 15, 2020.

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  1. Humble Disciple

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    What specifically did he say that would lend itself to Catholic transubstantiation, rather than a Protestant understanding of the real presence?

    Is he specifically saying the accidents of the bread remain, while the substance of bread is changed into the substance of Christ's body, as Catholicism does?

    Is he saying that the Eucharist is a literal yet unbloody re-enactment of Christ's sacrifice on the cross, worthy of our adoration, as the Catholics do?

    As far as Chan wanting unity between Catholics and Protestants, what does he have in mind? Catholics and Protestants working together, as equals, for common causes or having all Protestants subsumed under the authority of Rome?
     
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    Francis Chan didn't believe that miraculous healings could happen, until he performed them himself, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

     
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    What is the earliest evidence of the misinterpretation of the remembrance?
     
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    As for the totality of your questions, you will have to research them yourself. That was beyond my main interest. The OP does not make a claim exactly what Chan believes about transubstantiation, but whether the readers might think he is leaning toward Rome. As far as what he said, I quoted three things, none of which say directly what he believes about the Eucharist. However, they do seem to put his thoughts in a Catholic context
    Not a history I have studied much. The Roman Catholic Church, I think, officially defined it at the fourth Lateran Council in AD 1215, but I am sure it was taught by many much before that time. Of course, they claim John 6:54-56.
    I suspect this is a subject on which it might be easy to read one's views into what someone has written, such as whether they mean partaking literally or spiritually (and maybe sometimes the views of the translators affect the outcome).
     
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    The true Gospel being rediscovered was great theme of Reformation, so Chan should be looking at that!
     
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    The conflation of Jesus' teaching He is the true bread from heaven (John 6:64) with Jesus' institution of His remembrance, Luke 22:19-21.
     
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