Franken for Senate

Franken challenging someone to a fistfight? Great. How statesman-like of him.

 

Considering the yokel he challenged had said that liberals were wimps, I think it's pretty funny. Even funnier, Mr. Yokel then wimped out.

Of course, it didn't take much courage on Franken's part. He was an athlete, a wrestler, and still works out.

But still funny.

 

Jews have a whole passel of disputes on the question "who is a Jew?" One of my buddies says "I'm a Jew because my mother was Jewish." (As was his father, but they consider it to be passed through the mother.) He's an atheist, like so many other Jews, and a Communist. But he's a good musician, so we get along.

The only bottom line I've been able to discern from my reading in contemporary Jewish material is that a Jew is a person who (1) identifies himself with the Jewish people and all they represent and (2) rejects Jesus Christ.

 

Judaism, not Jewdism.

With the exception of people who convert, their children, their children's children, their children's children's children, increasing exponentially over thousands of years - since "all" is an absolute and great exceptions exist, your question doesn't have a lot of merit as an argument.

And what did Franken mean when he said that he'd be the only New York Jew born and raised in Minnesota running for Minnesota Senate seat? Note the humor in contrast between some one identified with New York (as Jews often are, having greater population there than anywhere including Israel) being in fact a native Minnesotan. Do you think Franken was saying that, unlike most Minnesotans, he is not white?

Do you consider Franken to be not white?


Pipedude - :thumbs:

 

Jews, or Israelites, in the strictest sense are descendants of the patriarch Jacob. And strictly speaking they would all share the same genetic origins. Some might call that a racial category.

The cultural traits commonly thought of as being 'New York Jew' actually refers to Ashkenazic Jews from eastern Europe - lox, bagels, Yiddish and all that stuff.

 

Yes, but that could be misconstrued by someone with an evil mind.

So you'd put down on the Census form that your race is Jewish?

What if he is of Ethiopian Jewish descent whose parents converted to Christianity and he converted back - would that make him Jewish or black?

White has everything to do with it. If his race is Jewish, then it's not white, it's Jewish. The whole point of "race" is to distinguish one from another, isn't it?

How do you know that he's not from a line of converts?

No, they can't tell religion from DNA.

And what did Franken mean when he said that he'd be the only New York Jew born and raised in Minnesota running for Minnesota Senate seat? Note the humor in contrast between some one identified with New York (as Jews often are, having greater population there than anywhere including Israel) being in fact a native Minnesotan. Do you think Franken was saying that, unlike most Minnesotans, he is not white?

Do you consider Franken to be not white?

 

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