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Franklin Graham gives me the impression he is crazy.

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Lodic

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I agree. The point is that though Trump was used by the Lord, yet for reasons known only to the Lord, He has not allowed him to continue as POTUS. Also, the fact that Biden/Harris will be very bad for the US, yet the Lord has again allowed this to happen. God is Almighty and can do as He pleases, or do nothing at all.
We are agreed upon that point. As Isaiah 55:8-9 tells us, “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts."
 

JonC

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Yep. Jesus also said the time to own a sword would come.

My cousin stole a chainsaw from me. Well, I didn't get the saw back, but he is going to Prison for over 40 years on the other stuff L.E. had no idea he was even into that got dumped in their lap. And the D.A. got some of the sentences consecutive instead of concurrent. Steal my chainsaw....
Different sermon :Biggrin
 

Lodic

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Yes... when you make a statement that Trump was supposed to have cause he had more votes, well so did Hillary.... next.
Okay, you got me there:Frown Still, Trump's electoral votes were stolen from him. That is not really an argument worth going into though, since the Liberals were successful in their scheme and Biden will be sworn in next week.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Just my opinion, but I think Trump is going to stay active in the political arena in some way. He may possibly start another party, or do his best to change the current Republican Party. He will be out of office next week, but I wouldn't count him gone just yet.
Oh I can pretty much guarantee that he will be a pain in the arse
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Okay, you got me there:Frown Still, Trump's electoral votes were stolen from him. That is not really an argument worth going into though, since the Liberals were successful in their scheme and Biden will be sworn in next week.
Do you have specific proof?
 

percho

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Did he now... my ancestor was the president of Confederate states. He would tell you a different story. Davis begged Lincoln to speak to them about saving the Union and Lincoln refused to see him. Ole Abe wanted a war cause he thought the south was outmatched. What did that cost in lives, property loss, and sore feelings even now. I can go on but in my studies of American history... the guy was a screw up.

From ushistory.org
After the 1860 election, tensions between north and south finally came to a head. Lincoln and the Republicans were reviled in the south, and did not carry a single state south of the Mason Dixon line. Within a few weeks of the election, southern states, unwilling to accept a Republican President, began seceding from the union.

Is that what happened?

BTW I am a Mississippian.
 

percho

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More people voted for Hillary than Trump. Therefore......

In all of the US Hillary got more votes in every county than Biden except for four counties.

Biden literally won the electoral vote by carrying 4 counties.

Methinks I saw that somewhere. Not chiseled in stone.
 

Wingman68

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Thank you for calling me great. However I'm not a leftist by any sane standard, but from your QAnon position, I'm sure you think I'm munching on a child even as I type this.
Glad to see you are aware of the depth of evil that exists. I don’t find it to be a joking matter, but when you support the party who butchers babies, might as well try to look clever doing it.
There are no sane standards held by the left anymore, yet you support them. Yup, you’re a funny guy alright.
 

Alcott

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Gald you asked. The Lord did put Trump there but like the devil and King Saul Trump became a very proud and arrogant man. Even claiming to be the chosen one. Which is why the Lord removed him

Is that why he removed JFK? Jimmy Carter? GWB? MLK?
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I see them as redefining morality and Christianity.

But that was not what Julian was doing. I just do not think ot fits.
In the context of applying the Julian method, you said this: "I do not see how the DNC can possibly be more dangerous to Christianity." Did you mean more dangerous than they already are, or more dangerous than the GOP? If the former, then just wait. Never say it couldn't be worse. If the latter, then that just isn't even close to the truth, which is my point. The Dems are far and away worse, at least Julian cubed.
 

timtofly

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Glad you asked. The Lord did put Trump there but like the devil and King Saul Trump became a very proud and arrogant man. Even claiming to be the chosen one. Which is why the Lord removed him
Is this not moving the blame? It is the churches fault we are in this position. I do not see, Trump in office as a worse change, but a change for the better. King David had the kingdom ripped away from Him, would you compare Trump to King David? Trump being President or not is not based on the leader's abilities. This is the will of the People. Obviously the majority of Americans want sin and wickedness to be a normal way of life. God gave the people what they want.
 

church mouse guy

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Is this not moving the blame? It is the churches fault we are in this position. I do not see, Trump in office as a worse change, but a change for the better. King David had the kingdom ripped away from Him, would you compare Trump to King David? Trump being President or not is not based on the leader's abilities. This is the will of the People. Obviously the majority of Americans want sin and wickedness to be a normal way of life. God gave the people what they want.

More truth than poetry.

A republic just doesn’t work for heathen nations and most Americans are heathens.
 

SavedByGrace

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Is this not moving the blame? It is the churches fault we are in this position. I do not see, Trump in office as a worse change, but a change for the better. King David had the kingdom ripped away from Him, would you compare Trump to King David? Trump being President or not is not based on the leader's abilities. This is the will of the People. Obviously the majority of Americans want sin and wickedness to be a normal way of life. God gave the people what they want.

there are many who think that God put Trump in as President in 2016, so, has Trump completed the work the Lord had for him?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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From ushistory.org
After the 1860 election, tensions between north and south finally came to a head. Lincoln and the Republicans were reviled in the south, and did not carry a single state south of the Mason Dixon line. Within a few weeks of the election, southern states, unwilling to accept a Republican President, began seceding from the union.

Is that what happened?

BTW I am a Mississippian.
I’m a yankee from Pa and NJ
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Is this not moving the blame? It is the churches fault we are in this position. I do not see, Trump in office as a worse change, but a change for the better. King David had the kingdom ripped away from Him, would you compare Trump to King David? Trump being President or not is not based on the leader's abilities. This is the will of the People. Obviously the majority of Americans want sin and wickedness to be a normal way of life. God gave the people what they want.
Isn’t sin and wickedness the way it has always been and is now? So what’s changed?
 
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