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SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Question, can America be "united" under Donald Trump? I read that he is trying to see ways that he can stay on as president, even if he does not win! Even if Joe does get in, the USA will probably be worse than it is today! The bigger problem is, that the USA with 50 "states", each doing their own thing, can never really be united. This experiment has failed, as it has in the EU!
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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KenH said:
The Founders set up the U.S. Constitution for the states to only being "united" in very limited ways. See Article I, Section 10 and Article IV, for examples.
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thereby giving way for a very "disunited" America, as we see today! Even with its faults, I think that the government system here in England is a far better one. The recent unchecked anarchy in some states in the US, showed the weakness of your "system"
 
KenH

KenH

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SavedByGrace said:
showed the weakness of your "system"
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Depends what one wants. We have always had a rather libertarian, individual rights bent in these United States. And realizing the fallenness of man, the desire at our founding was to limit the damage that government power, wielded by fallen men(and now women), could do to individual liberty.
 
canadyjd

canadyjd

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SavedByGrace said:
......The bigger problem is, that the USA with 50 "states", each doing their own thing, can never really be united. This experiment has failed, as it has in the EU!
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You really don’t understand U.S. political institutions. States don’t “do their own thing”. Most state laws mirror Federal Laws in every way that matters. Federal Law always trumps State laws if there is a conflict.

The “experiment” is doing just fine, thank you.

peace to you
 
Wingman68

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SavedByGrace said:
you mean like it did in the recent anarchy that took over some states? :Rolleyes
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We could have handled it, through federal intervention, but sometimes you just have to wake people up. They thought they were woke, but that was an illusion. What they are witnessing outside their doors is the true face of being woke, & it’s not what they wanted after all. Do they really want anarchy? Do they really like the results of how leftist power works when given free reign? Let’s see how brilliant that works out.....& we did. This is just the end of the leftist fireworks show, the grand finale. They’ve run out ways to bring us down. Now we vote. What do you suppose people will want to see going forward? Hint: It’s not anarchy.
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Wingman68 said:
We could have handled it, through federal intervention, but sometimes you just have to wake people up. They thought they were woke, but that was an illusion. What they are witnessing outside their doors is the true face of being woke, & it’s not what they wanted after all. Do they really want anarchy? Do they really like the results of how leftist power works when given free reign? Let’s see how brilliant that works out.....& we did. This is just the end of the leftist fireworks show, the grand finale. They’ve run out ways to bring us down. Now we vote. What do you suppose people will want to see going forward? Hint: It’s not anarchy.
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so what will be the state of the US after a Biden/Harris win?
 
Wingman68

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SavedByGrace said:
Truth sometimes hurts! over 50 million of you guys in the US are originally from here :D
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Your version of the truth comes from the msm, we are stuck with Haz for awhile being our resident Brit, but the rest of us are American. Notice how quiet the Muslim population has been lately? You think they have assimilated? I’ll check back with you another day on how well you are doing.
 
canadyjd

canadyjd

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SavedByGrace said:
you mean like it did in the recent anarchy that took over some states? :Rolleyes
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Clearly some cities are experiencing areas where anarchy takes place. It is an exaggeration to say, “anarchy took over some states”

If you look at the areas with continued widespread violence, you will find political leaders with radical liberal leftest ideologies that refuse to enforce laws that would put an end to it.

In a sense, the experiment is working even there. If the citizens keep voting the radicals to be their leaders, people will move to another state to keep themselves safe.

Most likely, however, the radicals will lose their political influence and radical liberalism will be rejected.

peace to you
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Wingman68 said:
Your version of the truth comes from the msm, we are stuck with Haz for awhile being our resident Brit, but the rest of us are American. Notice how quiet the Muslim population has been lately? You think they have assimilated? I’ll check back with you another day on how well you are doing.
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Is it true that there are mega mosques in "Bible-belt" states?
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Wingman68 said:
Courtesy of the Obama regime, yes. Did the residents want it? No. The left doesn’t care about people, just power over them.
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so the Fed Gov can get its own way when they want! Maybe, like here in England, it is the Righteous Judgement of God that these things are allowed to happen? What do you think about this possibility?
 
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