Free Birth Control

[annsni]

CTB, I would say that Christians divorce at the same rate as others, and are not insulated from the society at large.

Actually, they do if you count everyone who uses the label "Christian" but a person who actually follows their beliefs as a Christian (goes to church, reads their Bible, etc.) are much less likely to divorce according to statistics.

It is likely that Christian teens have sex at the same rates as well, but feel like if they plan ahead, they are planning to "sin". If they ate overcome with desire in the heat of the moment, it removes some of it being their fault...Hence lower rate of contraceptive use.

I wonder how much is tied to poverty rather than Christian beliefs.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

As usual, you miss the point. If you are against abortion, would it not make sense to do something that is proven to dramatically reduce the incidence, regardless of who pays? You would rather let "babies" be "murdered" than to publicly fund contraception for some?

So I either pay for their birth control or pay for their abortion.

M.P., what's wrong with abortion ? In your words, not what you suppose to be mine.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Let's make it mandatory that men are forced to provide for all the children they father. Garnish their wager and/or welfare benefits if necessary.

Let's enforce the laws already on the books.

 

[billwald]

Many of the fathers - if they were known - are working under the table.

>I wonder how much is tied to poverty rather than Christian beliefs.

At least half? Now, if their Christian congregation would guarantee to help raise the kids for the first 18 years . . . .

In the CRC when children are baptized the congregation promises to serve in loco parentis. Our congregation have a semi-secret fund that is used to help church members.

 

[annsni]

At least half? Now, if their Christian congregation would guarantee to help raise the kids for the first 18 years . . . .

But wouldn't that guarantee having even more babies? "It doesn't matter if we can afford them. Church will pay for them."

Instead, I do think churches should step in when needed but the parents need to get off their butts and get working. You made a baby? Pay your dues just like everyone else does.

 

[targus]

Many of the fathers - if they were known - are working under the table.

>I wonder how much is tied to poverty rather than Christian beliefs.

At least half? Now, if their Christian congregation would guarantee to help raise the kids for the first 18 years . . . .

In the CRC when children are baptized the congregation promises to serve in loco parentis. Our congregation have a semi-secret fund that is used to help church members.

Bill, why do you have such difficulty in following a discussion?

The question was whether "pregnacy" in the south is more related to poverty than to Christian beliefs - not whether "abortion" in the south is more related to poverty than to Christian beliefs.

Sigh...

 

[billwald]

Targus thinks there is a lower pregnancy rate among women with Christian beliefs? Or with "real" Christian beliefs?

 

[Aaron]

Abstinence is free.

 

[go2church]

Wow. Birth control means less pregnancies. You libbies get smarter every day.

This sets up a false narrative. We either supply free birth control, or abortions. Personal responsibility is nowhere in the equation.

I'd like to see this broken down to homeschool/public school blocks. Which demographic "needs" free birth control.

Yeah cause homeschooling fixes everything!

 

[go2church]

In my book less abortion is always a good thing. Also, lower rates of STD's are a good thing as well.

 

[Aaron]

In my book less abortion is always a good thing. Also, lower rates of STD's are a good thing as well.

Immorality with impunity is never a good thing.

 

[Salty]

Immorality with impunity is never a good thing.

:thumbsup:

 

[targus]

Targus thinks there is a lower pregnancy rate among women with Christian beliefs? Or with "real" Christian beliefs?

Perhaps you could look into some sort of extension course to assist you with your reading comprehension deficit problem.

 

[Matt Black]

How about let's do neither.

Then you're indirectly in favour of more abortions. I really don't think you've thought this one through...

 

[Matt Black]

Abstinence is free.

Yeah, cos good women never get raped, right>

 

[targus]

Yeah, cos good women never get raped, right>

Then you are advocating that women who are abstinent should be provided free contraceptives in the remote chance that they should ever be raped?

At what age in your opinion should all girls begin contraception to ensure no pregnancy from rape?

Ten, eleven, twelve...?

 

[Matt Black]

Nope, didn't say that. Just questioning the assumption behind the assertion.

 

[targus]

Nope, didn't say that. Just questioning the assumption behind the assertion.

As I am questioning yours.

 

[Revmitchell]

Then you're indirectly in favour of more abortions. I really don't think you've thought this one through...

So I have to be in favor of ta payer subsidized contraceptives or I am in favor of abortion? See this is what liberalism does to the brain.

 

[Matt Black]

Like I said, you haven't thought this through, have you?

I have started a new thread specifically on the abortion issue as I don't want to derail this one further.