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Freedom/Foreknowledge and Ockham's way out

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Brandon C. Jones, May 15, 2005.

  1. Brandon C. Jones

    Brandon C. Jones New Member

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    Greg Boyd is no Ockhamist rc.
     
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    rc New Member

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    Yes,
    He is Molina's boy...
     
  3. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    The verdict is already in on that one - see 1 Cor 2

    1 Cor 2
    11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.


    No point made - nothing to refute.

    Christ was tempted in Matt 4. "It was real".

    But your question is again - failure to appreciate God. (the basis for all of Calvinism - so no big surprise).

    The basis for temptation is twofold, ignorance and a motive to go against the character and nature of God as defined in HIS Law.

    To say that God CAN not be tempted is in fact to tsay that God IS not ignorant and IS not contradicting Himself.


    Only a Calvinist would twist that around to "Failure to have free will".

    Answer given.

    The point remains.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Temptations are born from the inclinations of the heart. If ALL that CAN BE inclined from the heart of Christ is the glorification of God, He is NEVER tempted per se the "thought of carrying through" the propositions of Satan would NEVER even be thought of by Christ... Satan "tested" Christ but Jesus was never "tempted" to sin at all.

    This is a perfect opposite analogy of man... He (in His nature) can't by HIS own will choose to Glorify God. He Has to have His nature changed to do that....
     
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