Freedom?

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I did not spread the disease to anyone. You and your wife, who gave it to you, stand a good chance of killing many kids and others if you do not wear a mask and follow the rules.

Dave, you do know that these vaccines do not preclude you from getting Covid nor does it prevent you from infecting others once you get the virus.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Isolation is bliss. But I have not had the disease, nor have I been around anyone.

Sure you have… by interacting with the grocery check out clerk. Do you go to church?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I don't get sick. I haven't been to a Doctor since the 80s.

So your not even getting routine physicals? How do you know you don’t have a hidden disease like cancer?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Our government says hacking up babies in the womb is good.

Keeping liqueur stores open while closing churches, restaurants and other business establishments was and is also permitted by the government.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Just so you know, my own sister was made brain damaged because of a government mandated vaccine. And I’ve personally seen others (who where children at the time) equally made brain damaged because of this forced vaccine mandate process. Are you suggesting that it is Gods purpose to destroy children via forced mandates?

 

[Reynolds]

Keeping liqueur stores open while closing churches, restaurants and other business establishments was and is also permitted by the government.

Yep. Any christian who promotes blind obedience to this Government needs to examine their Spiritual condition.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The govt is forcing evil.

The government is forcing experimental vaccines on children!?! Now why in heavens name would they do that?

 

[Reynolds]

The government is forcing experimental vaccines on children!?! Now why in heavens name would they do that?

They are evil Marxists.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

The government is forcing experimental vaccines on children!?! Now why in heavens name would they do that?

If they are doing it in heaven's name, they are blaspheming big league.

 

[AustinC]

Just so you know, my own sister was made brain damaged because of a government mandated vaccine. And I’ve personally seen others (who where children at the time) equally made brain damaged because of this forced vaccine mandate process. Are you suggesting that it is Gods purpose to destroy children via forced mandates?

I would suggest that God has told us how to respond to government and has told us that He has established each and every government on earth.
I do say, I am sorry for the sorrows God has ordained for you life and for mine. This corrupt world is not our home. We walk in obedience to God's word and we accept what God has ordained for us by giving Him praise.
Job 2:10 But he said to her, “You speak as one of the foolish women would speak. Shall we receive good from God, and shall we not receive evil?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

 

[1689Dave]

How many people you witnessing to or inviting to church, being all held up in the compound and all.

First, I cannot think of one church in my area I would sacrifice one soul to. All that the Father gave to Jesus will be saved despite your efforts. Incidentally, I just witnessed about how bogus the rapture is to another believer who got sucked into that scheme...from the porch.

 

[1689Dave]

Hypothetically speaking, how fun is being healthy in prison? You are scared to live.

I stayed to myself long before Covid. These are the best years of my life.

 

[Reynolds]

First, I cannot think of one church in my area I would sacrifice one soul to. All that the Father gave to Jesus will be saved despite your efforts. Incidentally, I just witnessed about how bogus the rapture is to another believer who got sucked into that scheme...from the porch.

You sound like you are a shining light. No church is good enough for you. You are not even a good Calvinist. Calvinism holds it's your duty to spread The Gospel to both the Elect and Non-elext.

 

[1689Dave]

You sound like you are a shining light. No church is good enough for you. You are not even a good Calvinist. Calvinism holds it's your duty to spread The Gospel to both the Elect and Non-elext.

That's judging my motives which is sin. You need to repent.

 

[Reynolds]

That's judging my motives which is sin. You need to repent.

Just restarting what you have said.

 

[Benjamin]

Even now, I wear a proper mask.

I would give you that a mask lessens your chance of infection but you are kidding yourself it is more than a temporary and often ineffective protection especially without being meticulously closely followed by a host of protocols to prevent exposure.

And avoid any number of people.

Not how I and others choose to live. We are talking personal freedom here.

We use Walmart grocery pick-up unless we shop early at other stores before customers show up.

You realize that the items picked up in the store have had been exposed to multiple people that may have poor hygene practices and touched, coughed, sneezed and breathed on these items that any of them may have been infected and that the virus can live on items for some time? Those grocery pickers handling your items are exposed all day long to this environment. All you have to do is touch an item that may have 1,000s of viruses on it then your fork before it goes into your mouth - you are mostly merely and unwittingly sacrificing your freedom to visually shop and compare and personally select your own food.

But the potential is there if you ignore the rules.

You believe you should obey the "rules"even if a government infringes on our freedom while they are attempting to force people and/or their children to put something in their bodies that they do not want and are even disregarding natural immunity of those who have already been exposed and did just fine?

I don't associate with people. None.

I don't know what to say about that except it is a sad way to live and pretty much impossible.

I don't get sick.

That could mean your antibodies are fewer and less prepared to naturally battle this dangerous disease.

I haven't been to a Doctor since the 80s.

I don't like going to the doctor either but as you age it is risky to let things go and not get some professional healthcare and checkups.

 

[1689Dave]

I would give you that a mask lessens your chance of infection but you are kidding yourself it is more than a temporary and often ineffective protection especially without being meticulously closely followed by a host of protocols to prevent exposure.


Not how I and others choose to live. We are talking personal freedom here.


You realize that the items picked up in the store have had been exposed to multiple people that may have poor hygene practices and touched, coughed, sneezed and breathed on these items that any of them may have been infected and that the virus can live on items for some time? Those grocery pickers handling your items are exposed all day long to this environment. All you have to do is touch an item that may have 1,000s of viruses on it then your fork before it goes into your mouth - you are mostly merely and unwittingly sacrificing your freedom to visually shop and compare and personally select your own food.


You believe you should obey the "rules"even if a government infringes on our freedom while they are attempting to force people and/or their children to put something in their bodies that they do not want and are even disregarding natural immunity of those who have already been exposed and did just fine?

I don't know what to say about that except it is a sad way to live and pretty much impossible.

That could mean your antibodies are fewer and less prepared to naturally battle this dangerous disease.

I don't like going to the doctor either but as you age it is risky to let things go and not get some professional healthcare and checkups.

Have you caught covid or its variants yet?

 

[1689Dave]

Just restarting what you have said.

You are judging my motives and this is a sin to be repented of.

 

[Benjamin]

Have you caught covid or its variants yet?

No, but I am vaccinated which makes the odds over 90% I won't get it and if I do I have some bumped up immunity to help fight it. My daughter was not vaccinated, - when my kids asked my opinion, I didn't discourage it but said it was their choice and admitted that when I was younger there is no way I would have got it. My daughter recently got COVID and besides focusing on vitamins and nutrition I strongly encouraged her to get monoclonal antibody treatment which took 2 days to get and by then had 103 temp and was feeling quite ill but 48 hours later she was doing much better. If she hadn't got better quickly I would probably have told her she might as well deworm herself.

 

[Reynolds]

You are judging my motives and this is a sin to be repented of.

I am not judging your motives. I am stating your actions. You are the one who demeaned all churches in your area as unfit to send converts to.