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Freewill religion is the Man of Sin !
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davidoregonJr
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I am watched night and day by Satan and his angels
to see if they can make me fall or bring accusation to my Lord about me.
And you tell me to be careful...
NOW THAT IS CLASSIC.
I MUST SAY.
:applause:
to see if they can make me fall or bring accusation to my Lord about me.
And you tell me to be careful...
NOW THAT IS CLASSIC.
I MUST SAY.
:applause:
davidoregonJr
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I didn't know this was a game of winning and losing. You asked a respected man of God an incomprehensible question. He responded with intelligence and grace. You responded with more blather. I always understood debate to be two intelligent individuals defending their thesis with facts. You lost and I won? Rather sophomoric.
Where I come from we call that childish.
DHK said:
Where I come from we call that a well-reasoned answer. :thumbsup:
davidoregonJr
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We are not on landoverbapts.net.
and the battle is over.
My side won.
It has already been determined in Heaven.
davidoregonJr
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You can go on back to the drawer.
Mr. dull knife.:wavey:
Mr. dull knife.:wavey:
Agreed. The other "side" of this argument sounds childish and immature. It will not stand long.
davidoregonJr
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What you poor souls fail to realize.
This is recorded in Heaven.(I AM ALWAYS AMAZED HOW BIBLE BELIEVERS DO NOT BELIEVE THEIR BIBLES)
You can delete it from this web site.
BUT UNTILL YOU CAN DELETE FROM THE BOOKS IN HEAVEN
IT WILL STAND TILL IT IS PROVEN...
PROVEN
WRONG.
Saying
"Agreed. The other "side" of this argument sounds childish and immature. It will not stand long."
JUST PROVES YOU LACK THE WISDOM OF GOD.
The problem being is YOU DIDN"T PRESENT A SIDE! You just can't declare a victory in a debate in which you never participated. And what in the name of Sam Hill is landoverbapts.net?
davidoregonJr
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How do you think it looks to God
THAT I BELIEVE MORE OF WHAT IS IN YOUR BIBLE THAN YOU ALL DO?
How do you think it looks to God
THAT I OBEY MORE OF THE VERSES OF THE BIBLE THAN ALL OF YOU DO?
:wavey:
THAT I BELIEVE MORE OF WHAT IS IN YOUR BIBLE THAN YOU ALL DO?
How do you think it looks to God
THAT I OBEY MORE OF THE VERSES OF THE BIBLE THAN ALL OF YOU DO?
:wavey:
davidoregonJr
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davidoregonJr
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Probably like this.....
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself,
God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are,
extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luke 18:11-12 KJV
God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are,
extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luke 18:11-12 KJV
Doubting Thomas
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Must...contact....the mother ship...
savedbymercy
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This teaching of man's freewill in the matter of Salvation is not just of those who loudly proclaim it, but even to those in the reformed faiths, who in the final analysis, make faith and or repentance, the basis for a man's Justification before God. Even if it is supposedly God given Faith. Hence any that attribute any part of Justification in part or in whole to what man does is an Idolater and it does not matter who it is and what their credentials or reputation may be. Even though they may say the right things , like salvation by grace, election and new birth, yet they worship themselves, mans freewill ultimately is what determines if one is saved or lost, what man does or not do, it never fails. When all is said and done, freewill religionists makes man his own savior, and that is what I believe the text is saying, it is the exaltation of man. Freewill religion is a form of will worship as per Col 2:23
23Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
This will worship is ethelothrēskia and it means:
voluntary, arbitrary worship
a) worship which one prescribes and devises for himself, contrary to the contents and nature of faith which ought to be directed to Christ
b) said of the misdirected zeal and the practice of ascetics
Its self made religion, not according to Faith and what has been revealed.
This is the religion of cain. Cain instead of by Faith making an offering to God that was accepted, he instead, did what he thought or believed to be acceptable to God. It was his own self made worship, and no doubt done in sincerity and his best the fruit of the ground could offer. This is exactly what the freewillers are doing today, rejecting the revelation of scripture of how Justification and Salvation is wrought by the lamb of God, and do that which is right in their own eyes. Prov 14:22
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
There own self made religions, why you think its so many different suasions ?
Will worship is also the worship of ourselves. Did not The serpent tell Eve, that she could be as God !! Gen 3:5
5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Ambition, to be as God. cp Isa 14:14
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yes, this is what fuels freewill religion ! The word God in Gen 3:5 is the same exact word as in Gen 1:1
Satan was telling eve she could be, what he himself desired to be, like the Most High !
23Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
This will worship is ethelothrēskia and it means:
voluntary, arbitrary worship
a) worship which one prescribes and devises for himself, contrary to the contents and nature of faith which ought to be directed to Christ
b) said of the misdirected zeal and the practice of ascetics
Its self made religion, not according to Faith and what has been revealed.
This is the religion of cain. Cain instead of by Faith making an offering to God that was accepted, he instead, did what he thought or believed to be acceptable to God. It was his own self made worship, and no doubt done in sincerity and his best the fruit of the ground could offer. This is exactly what the freewillers are doing today, rejecting the revelation of scripture of how Justification and Salvation is wrought by the lamb of God, and do that which is right in their own eyes. Prov 14:22
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
There own self made religions, why you think its so many different suasions ?
Will worship is also the worship of ourselves. Did not The serpent tell Eve, that she could be as God !! Gen 3:5
5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Ambition, to be as God. cp Isa 14:14
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yes, this is what fuels freewill religion ! The word God in Gen 3:5 is the same exact word as in Gen 1:1
Satan was telling eve she could be, what he himself desired to be, like the Most High !
quantumfaith
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WD, you should check out Mustardseed on the Other Denominations board.
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