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Gail Riplinger
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Anti-Alexandrian
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Well,you just keep thinking your right;as for me and those who are Bible-believers, that did not abandon the KJB and did not adhere to the corrupt Alexandrian "bibles" that was vomited upon this earth,we will see you there.However,if you are wrong,and you are,you will get your come-upins;and then:
I will laugh!
neal4christ
New Member
How sad! You shouldn't be laughing, but rather mourning and trying to persuade others in love because you spirit is groaning within you for those who are following lies. In any translation I read Galatians 5:22-23 I do not find pride and arrogance a part of the fruit of the Spirit.
In Christ,
Neal
Anti-Alexandrian
Member
Why should I mourn for people who willfully believe a lie? But I agree with Paul:" But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant." Problem is,there is a lot of men followers that are afraid to admit fault;truth of the matter is,most of the men that dis her and her book probaly have never even read her book;but instead,listen to their Alexandrian guru.Sad,very sad.
I,m gonna laugh.
neal4christ
New Member
Well, you are truly a sad case. How arrogant and self-righteous can you possibly be? Pray tell, where do you find that as a fruit in the life of the believer?
In Christ,
Neal
Anti-Alexandrian said:
truth of the matter is,most of the men that dis her and her book probaly have never even read her book;
No, the real truth of the matter is that more people than you are willing to admit have read the book, and have substantial grounds upon which to condemn it as a fetid load of stinking garbage.
The pathetic thing is that Riplinger is the best you have, judging by the number of times I've heard that just reading Riplinger will set me straight. Yeah yeah.
truth of the matter is,most of the men that dis her and her book probaly have never even read her book;
No, the real truth of the matter is that more people than you are willing to admit have read the book, and have substantial grounds upon which to condemn it as a fetid load of stinking garbage.
The pathetic thing is that Riplinger is the best you have, judging by the number of times I've heard that just reading Riplinger will set me straight. Yeah yeah.
Ed Edwards
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Askjo: //Whoa! Modern versions on Isa. 14:12 said "morning star." //
So does the King James Bible 1611 Authorized Version
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
||O Lucifer, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
sidenote || Or, O daystarre
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611alternate):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
O Daystarre, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
So does the King James Bible 1611 Authorized Version
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
||O Lucifer, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
sidenote || Or, O daystarre
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611alternate):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
O Daystarre, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
If Lucifer is the morning star, is Jesus Christ also the morning star as well? Are they one and the same?Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
Askjo: //Whoa! Modern versions on Isa. 14:12 said "morning star." //
So does the King James Bible 1611 Authorized Version
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
||O Lucifer, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
sidenote || Or, O daystarre
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611alternate):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
O Daystarre, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
Ed Edwards
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According to the
KJV1769 in Revelation 22:16 Jesus is
the "bright and morning star".
According to the KJV1611 Lucifer is the
morning star.
Do you have any idea what "inerrent" means
I'll tell you, "inerrent" is an assumption
that the written word of God contains
no error. Therefor if there appears to
be an error at this point, then it
is an error of perception by the reader
of the Bible NOT by the author of
the Bible: God Himself.
Arrogant, know-it-alls called KJV-onlyists
absolve themselves from personal guilt
by a logic trick I like to call:
ignoring the definitions. The definition
of "inerrant" makes the individual guilty
if they don't understand the written
word of God: the Holy Bible.
So if you don't understand how both
Lucifer and Jesus can both be the
morning star (day star), try getting
a bit closer to God.
I better go to bed, i'm not making
much sense
Archangel7
New Member
If Lucifer is the morning star, is Jesus Christ also the morning star as well? Are they one and the same? </font>[/QUOTE]No, they are not, as the *context* of these verses makes clear. Perhaps another example will illustrate:Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
Askjo: //Whoa! Modern versions on Isa. 14:12 said "morning star." //
So does the King James Bible 1611 Authorized Version
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
||O Lucifer, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
sidenote || Or, O daystarre
Ifaiah XIIII:12 (KJV1611alternate):
How art thou fallen from heauen,
O Daystarre, sonne of the morning? how
are thou cut downe to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations?
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring LION, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Pet. 5:8, KJV)
"And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the LION of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." (Rev. 5:5, KJV)
If the devil is a lion, is Jesus Christ also a lion as well? Are they one and the same?
No, they are not, as the *context* of these verses makes clear.
Does he hate it when you sow discord among the brethren by insisting that they follow your personal preferences and false teaching?? Does he hate it when you sow discord by callign us Pharisees?? Why do you do things he hates??
She gets under my skin because I see the damage she is doing the body of Christ, and I hate that. I am not jealous in the least. I have no desire to lie or misrepresent. I have no desire to twist people's words. We are not "trying hard" to prove her wrong. It is not difficult and it has been done on many occasions.
You obviously are not aware of the facts here. There is no way that a person who tells the truth can say this. There is objective undeniable evidence that she is a liar. That is not a matter of person opinion.
Please tell us about this woman's education (what degrees, what fields, and from where) and tell us what "highly accredited" universities she teaches at. Put your facts on the table here.
You will be waiting a very, very long time ...
RaptureReady
New Member
Still waiting.
Wow, I began this post & then left for a few days vacation. I came back to find 150 replies (and counting) to my question about Gail "The Ripper"!
I haven't read each & every entry, so forgive me if I touch on subjects already covered. One thing that always amazed me was the virtual freedom that many IFB Pastors gave to Gail Riplinger to speak from their pulpits! How many other women would be given such an opportunity? (Very few, I would venture.)
Another thing that always made me chuckle was the fact that her bio on the back cover of her book (THE book) so handily concealed her gender. The bio refers to her only by her initials (G.A.) or by calling her simply "the author". (Read it or re-read it & see if there is any indication that she is a woman.) I remember the puzzled looks I got, in talking to a couple of rabid fans of the book, when I refered to Riplinger as "she" or "her"! (I think it was an intentional ruse so as not to alienate her largely IFB target audience!)
And don't get me started on her "Doctorate"......................!!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't read each & every entry, so forgive me if I touch on subjects already covered. One thing that always amazed me was the virtual freedom that many IFB Pastors gave to Gail Riplinger to speak from their pulpits! How many other women would be given such an opportunity? (Very few, I would venture.)
Another thing that always made me chuckle was the fact that her bio on the back cover of her book (THE book) so handily concealed her gender. The bio refers to her only by her initials (G.A.) or by calling her simply "the author". (Read it or re-read it & see if there is any indication that she is a woman.) I remember the puzzled looks I got, in talking to a couple of rabid fans of the book, when I refered to Riplinger as "she" or "her"! (I think it was an intentional ruse so as not to alienate her largely IFB target audience!)
And don't get me started on her "Doctorate"......................!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still waiting. </font>[/QUOTE]Let remind everyone of this resource that shows some of the errors and foolishness of this book. It is worth your time to read it.
New Age Bible Versions: Review Article
A friend (not a BB member) was "lurking" and reading this thread. He asked me to add:
Another consideration regarding Mrs. Riplinger's premise, if I may, taken from an unpublished critique of her book. With the permission of the author of the critique, I quote:
A final question must be asked: in light of the scholarship (or lack thereof) exhibited in Mrs. Riplinger's book, are her beliefs about the New
Age accurate? It must be admitted that we ourselves are certainly not experts on the movement. However, several points need to be mentioned regarding the New Age.
First, the New Age Movement is made up of many different sects, ranging from almost Christian to purely Satanic. The one thing they all seem to have in common is that they do not accept anything or anyone as final authority. The prevailing premise of the movement is "do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone in the process". Probably the majority of those in the movement would never bother with the Bible.
For those New Agers who are interested in more spiritual considerations, the Bible may be of interest. One such group, the New Age Community Church, who have a seminary through which they teach New Age principles, says that "While we use the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita and A Course in Miracles as source books, we do not regard them as Law but rather as clarification and insights in the minds of other spiritual teachers"
(www.aznewage.com/seminary.htm). It is of interest that "While a number of outside texts are recommended, the only books the student will be required to buy are the King James Version of the Bible and the Ramacharaka translation of the Bhagavad Gita" (Ibid.).
The leaders of this seminary are not the only ones to use -- or at least quote from -- the King James Version. New Age Spirituality and Esoteric Christianity homepage begins with a quotation from Soren Kierkegaard, after which they quote "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" (John 10.34; see www.thenewagesite.com). Ron Roth in Innerself Magazine (www.innerself.com/Spirituality/allowing_jesus.htm) quotes "the words of Jesus... Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise" -- definitely not the kind of wording seen in the modern versions which Mrs. Riplinger claims are the forte of New Age supporters. The same propensity of quoting from the KJV can be seen in Barbara Condron's quotation of Psalm 5.1-3 in her article on the website of the university of the World's School of Metaphysics (www.som.org/3library/books/behappy.htm).
This is not to say that those New Agers who use the Bible use the KJV exclusively. The website of the Blavatsky Forum (which honours and discusses the works of Madame H. P. Blavatsky, the 19th century founder of Theosophy) recommends the KJV and the Revised Standard Version (www.blavatsky.net/topics/bible/bible.htm). The Store for the Miracle Minded (www.thestorecot.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp) of the Church of Today
(www.churchoftoday.com/storemain.htm) advertises the KJV and other translations, and Moonxscape recommends a large print html edition of the
KJV as well as biorhythm programs and a program that will predict your future spouse's name (www.moonxscape.com/Lunar_Moon_Freeware.shtml).
If what Mrs. Riplinger asserts regarding Bible versions is true, one would expect that New Agers would flock to anything other than the KJV. As noted above, this is not the case. The KJV is not rejected by New Agers, but instead is embraced and used by them. This leaves another gap in the validity of the "great conspiracy" of "New Age" Bible Versions.
Another consideration regarding Mrs. Riplinger's premise, if I may, taken from an unpublished critique of her book. With the permission of the author of the critique, I quote:
A final question must be asked: in light of the scholarship (or lack thereof) exhibited in Mrs. Riplinger's book, are her beliefs about the New
Age accurate? It must be admitted that we ourselves are certainly not experts on the movement. However, several points need to be mentioned regarding the New Age.
First, the New Age Movement is made up of many different sects, ranging from almost Christian to purely Satanic. The one thing they all seem to have in common is that they do not accept anything or anyone as final authority. The prevailing premise of the movement is "do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone in the process". Probably the majority of those in the movement would never bother with the Bible.
For those New Agers who are interested in more spiritual considerations, the Bible may be of interest. One such group, the New Age Community Church, who have a seminary through which they teach New Age principles, says that "While we use the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita and A Course in Miracles as source books, we do not regard them as Law but rather as clarification and insights in the minds of other spiritual teachers"
(www.aznewage.com/seminary.htm). It is of interest that "While a number of outside texts are recommended, the only books the student will be required to buy are the King James Version of the Bible and the Ramacharaka translation of the Bhagavad Gita" (Ibid.).
The leaders of this seminary are not the only ones to use -- or at least quote from -- the King James Version. New Age Spirituality and Esoteric Christianity homepage begins with a quotation from Soren Kierkegaard, after which they quote "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" (John 10.34; see www.thenewagesite.com). Ron Roth in Innerself Magazine (www.innerself.com/Spirituality/allowing_jesus.htm) quotes "the words of Jesus... Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise" -- definitely not the kind of wording seen in the modern versions which Mrs. Riplinger claims are the forte of New Age supporters. The same propensity of quoting from the KJV can be seen in Barbara Condron's quotation of Psalm 5.1-3 in her article on the website of the university of the World's School of Metaphysics (www.som.org/3library/books/behappy.htm).
This is not to say that those New Agers who use the Bible use the KJV exclusively. The website of the Blavatsky Forum (which honours and discusses the works of Madame H. P. Blavatsky, the 19th century founder of Theosophy) recommends the KJV and the Revised Standard Version (www.blavatsky.net/topics/bible/bible.htm). The Store for the Miracle Minded (www.thestorecot.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp) of the Church of Today
(www.churchoftoday.com/storemain.htm) advertises the KJV and other translations, and Moonxscape recommends a large print html edition of the
KJV as well as biorhythm programs and a program that will predict your future spouse's name (www.moonxscape.com/Lunar_Moon_Freeware.shtml).
If what Mrs. Riplinger asserts regarding Bible versions is true, one would expect that New Agers would flock to anything other than the KJV. As noted above, this is not the case. The KJV is not rejected by New Agers, but instead is embraced and used by them. This leaves another gap in the validity of the "great conspiracy" of "New Age" Bible Versions.
Forever settled in heaven
New Member
o i know i know ... it's a BROKEN record,Originally posted by BrianT:
11 pages and still basically on topic.That must be some sort of record.
1 Pet. 5:8, KJV " Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring LION, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour"
Rev. 5:5, KJV "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the LION of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."
You quote, "If the devil is a lion, is Jesus Christ also a lion as well? Are they one and the same?"
You are so mistaken! Look at the KJV! Look at 2 words: "A" and "THE." Are they same? Absolutely not! The devil is as "a roaring lion." Jesus is the Lion of ..." The Scripture said that the devil is "AS" a roaring lion. It also stated that Jesus IS the Lion. Look at first letter of lion -- capital letter "L"ion and other is little l --"l"ion.
[ September 17, 2003, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: Askjo ]
Isaiah 14:12 (NIV)
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
Revelation 22:16 (NIV)
I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.
You were saying???