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Gambling

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by StraightAndNarrow, Jan 13, 2006.

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  1. Yes.

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  2. Yes, but not if it led someone else astray.

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  3. Yes, but not if it became the master of my life.

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  4. No, never.

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  1. Helen

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    You are ruining the suspense!
     
  2. Johnv

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    I think this topic has been well talked out. With the exception of one poster who has a reputation for going off pharisaical the deep end, I think everyone in the thread has managed to defend their positions to at least an adequate level, and with at least a minimal amount of respect for the other posters in the thread. I see no reason to continue this thread any further. No one's mind is going to be changed.
     
  3. buckster75

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    But not necessary was he the spending of it in charge of. Opps I slipped into Yoda speak.
     
  4. Salamander

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    quote:
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    Originally posted by standingfirminChrist:
    A terrible testimony for any christian to be seen at a bar drinking beer.
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    It is always in all circumstances, unless of course "woe" invited by putting strong drink to your neighbor's lips was your intention all along? :rolleyes:
     
  5. buckster75

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    No John I am not getting it if your response answers the question of how would Jesus dispose of surplus funds?
     
  6. Salamander

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    Only those who haven't yet seared their conscience with a hot iron on the subject still have a chance to reckon what the scripture applies concerning gambling. Of course your hypocritical and judgemental mentality won't accept truth taught upon the basis of precept upon percept, line upon line. Your attacks against my person have made you look more like the fool than ever before. Congratulations are in order!!!
     
  7. buckster75

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    Salamander

    There is no place here for that call even if I did not agree with the comment John made.
     
  8. Johnv

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    :rolleyes: I guess I hit a nerve.

    Let's go over it once again. There is no scripture that expressly forbids gambling (not one single scripture has been provided by anyone). There is scripture for forbids things that gambling can lead to. If a person engages in gambling that is not engaging in those things scripturally forbidden, then it is permitted.

    Feel free to provide a link to a post that was hypocritical. As for judgemental, pot/kettle.
    Again, pot/kettle.
     
  9. Helen

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    This thread will definitely attract people to Christ


    NOT
     
  10. Salamander

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    Only in the deluded mindset you insist upon.

    Your belief system would antiquate Scripture in many regards and if not kill the Living Word, at least cripple it beyond being able to help the present day sinner. You need to really think that one over, JohnV.
     
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    Asking if Christians should gamble is in no way evangelistic either, it is only applicable to Christian duty.

    have to disagree with you in the event some sinner read this thread and see that some Christians still belive in the old time way of living what they believe instead of weasling around every issue by comprimise to effectually make things "permissable" as the result which even most lost people know are wrong.
     
  12. Johnv

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    I'll be happy to change my view if scripture is provide to the contrary. So far in this thead, none has been provided.

    On the contrary. It affirms the fact that scripture is as pertinent today as it was when it was written.
    Again, I will change my position if scripture is provided that requires me to change it.
     
  13. Helen

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    Salamander, John knows I am also against gambling. However I stated my case and that was it. Indulging in the name-calling and spite which you have done does nothing for your case, and does nothing to encourage the reader to seek the Lord on this issue.
     
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    It is scripture itself that does not expressly fornid gambling in and of itself. Hence, it is incorrect to say that holding to this view is weasling or compromising. In fact, that position is consistently firm.
    I second that post. I'm 100% aware of Helen's view. I respect Helen's view, though I disagree with it in part. I hope Helen respects me likewise, though she may not agree with me.
     
  15. Salamander

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    Ok, so now you're saying that confronting the error of some with the truth has no place in the BB?

    It is hypocritical to approve of something to the degree that has been undertaken and not even participate, simply because if it were permissible, then why isn't the one approving of the deviant activity involved? He must have his reason, so what is it? it would then be "since", then. Not if this, then that.

    I made no inuendo towards "the other poster" and made no direct insinuation of his charcater by generalisation, I made direct comment to the perpetraitor in his offensive remarks as to making ANYONE who contends such in this manner to look on the part of the fool.
     
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    John, Scripture doesn't tell you not to stand on your head in a corner until you pass out, either...

    The way we handle our money is a matter of stewardship over what God has allowed us to have. We are each accountable to Him for the way we use it, our time, our words, our energy, and our influence over or on others.

    Nuff said.
     
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    I stated the truth, and that was it. I referenced the mindset, not the mind. I have no spite, you're portarying a pressumptuous thinking and that is wrong. I really like JohnV, it's just his way of thinking that neeeds to be addressed. I'm sure we could worship together, but I would probably have to sit on a pew well behind so he would NOT slobber on me when he shouted.
     
  18. Helen

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    Salamander, your personal feelings are not the point. What I have seen in your posts is a very nasty attitude and a lot of spite and verbal spitting. Other people read these things, and some are not Christian at all.

    I have found from about ten years on forums that it is not nearly WHAT I present as the character that comes through when I present it which matters to people who are searching for the truth. As Romans 2 says, it is God's kindness which leads toward repentance.

    If John needs to repent, your attitude is not bringing him any closer.
     
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    I also respect your view, but only to the effect it is misguided as being led b y the flesh, not the Spirit. I never referred to you in such a way to call you a Pharisee or a legalist, those remarks are very derogatory and bring into question my salvation.

    I question my salvation personally for this one reason, and this one alone, TO PUNISH the devil with the SAVED soul that he once thought he had in his grasp and taking me to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  20. Johnv

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    True, but if you can do it in a manner that's not sinful, then hey, it's nota a sin. It might be stupid, but it's not a sin.
    I don't disagree with you. That's why I've been very specific about where the money that a person uses for gambling comes from. Please understand that, just because I've said that gambling can be permissible, that doesn't mean I believe it's always permissible. I simply am saying that it's not always a sin, and, in and of itslef, is not.

    That's all I've ben saying in that regard.
     
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