Gas Prices Continue Surging Under Biden

[Revmitchell]

the first day of his presidency, Joe Biden signed an executive order cancelling the Keystone XL pipeline that would have brought oil from Canada to American refineries. Days later, he signed an executive order pausing federal drilling leases.

More is to come from Biden on the energy front, and they’ll all have the same effect in increasing the price of oil – which you’re likely already noticing at the pump.

Gas Prices Continue Surging Under Biden

 

[Van]

If we are not dependent on middle-eastern oil, then why would we need to be involved in their constant and never-ending battles? OTOH, if we raise gas prices, it harms the working poor. It is mind-boggling as to why those same folks voted for higher prices, instead of keeping the policies that brought us "energy independence."

 

[Scott Downey]

If we are not dependent on middle-eastern oil, then why would we need to be involved in their constant and never-ending battles? OTOH, if we raise gas prices, it harms the working poor. It is mind-boggling as to why those same folks voted for higher prices, instead of keeping the policies that brought us "energy independence."

Because the left denies Trump policies kept energy prices low. AND today do not acknowledge Biden policies are pushing up oil prices.
There are several lefty people on the forum that say exactly that and think it is great prices are heading higher. (great for who and what reasons they think its great), likely they like GND energy policies like all electric cars, don't like oil production or fracking, etc...and believe John Kerry and AOC saying the world will be destroyed in 9 years due to use of fossil fuels, co2, global warming, etc... all the talking points of the left socialists.

I personally follow scripture, and my policy would be to exercise dominion over nature and SUBDUE it. But the left views people as parasites of mother earth, they call her Gaea.

Genesis 1:28
Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Watch them deflect and start talking about how man is destroying the 'planet'

 

[Scott Downey]

The same LEFT philosophy caused the deaths of maybe over a hundred million people in Africa due to mosquitos and malaria.
Silent Spring, the DDT fearmongering scare book. Which was proven a lie, causing bird shells to be thinner. So was banned.
A few hundred million suffering serious disease and death in Africa is worth the price to them to assuage their consciences about the birds.

You wont hear any other narrative from the LEFT once they have decided start banning things.
The LEFT embraces destructive doctrines of demons. And it has gotten more obvious lately, except of course to those deceived by the LEFT.

DDT, Fraud, and Tragedy | The American Spectator | USA News and Politics

 

[Baptist Believer]

If we are not dependent on middle-eastern oil, then why would we need to be involved in their constant and never-ending battles?

There are a variety of reasons we are involved in the Middle East.

But in terms of petroleum and natural gas, the US became a net exporter of refined petroleum produces in 2011. In 2014, the US became the third largest producer of crude oil, after Saudi Arabia and Russia, and the second-largest exporter of refined products, after Russia. in 2019, the US became a net exporter of refined petroleum produces and crude oil.

Our current obligations in the Middle East came long before the huge advances in fracking technology during torward the end of the George W. Bush Administration, and throughout the Obama Administration.

OTOH, if we raise gas prices, it harms the working poor. It is mind-boggling as to why those same folks voted for higher prices, instead of keeping the policies that brought us "energy independence."

Because gasoline is not free. If the prices remained where they were, stateside drilling and extraction would completely shut down and we would be back to importing most of our oil from other countries. By having a moderate price for oil, we employ oil and gas workers, pump our nation's money back into our own economy instead of sending it to other nations. The oil and gas industry is served by almost all sectors of the American economy, so a moderate price for those produces lifts everyone.

It seems that those who shout "America First" would understand that instead of trying to complain about it. But of course, it is a stick they can use to beat Biden with, so we shouldn't look too closely at the stick, since the point is to beat up on Biden.

There are plenty of real things to criticize about Biden, but this one isn't it.

 

[Salty]

But they didnt start rising until Biden became POTUS

Coincidence ? I think not

 

[Revmitchell]

But they didnt start rising until Biden became POTUS

Coincidence ? I think not

Because production is down from this time last year due to his policies. When people simply say dumb things like demand is up and thats the cause its just a lie because it ignores the lack of production. We need the whole story not lefty msnbc and cnn spin.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Because production is down from this time last year due to his policies. When people simply say dumb things like demand is up and thats the cause its just a lie because it ignores the lack of production.

It does NOT ignore the lack of production. We are selling off the glut of oil and refined oil products left over from last year. That's why prices were so low.

We need the whole story not lefty msnbc and cnn spin.

I don't go to CNN or MSNBC for information on the oil and gas industry. They usually get it wrong. My family has been in the business for more than 100 years, and I have grown up with it.

So if you are going to characterize why I have written as "dumb," I think I need to know your expertise. I suspect you have none. You just repeat the useless fake stories from your propaganda stories and claim "none of this is true" when you don't know what else to say and to want to dismiss others with your trademark arrogance and ignorance.

 

[777]

On a more serious note, Biden really hasn't done anything to increase the price of gas yet, except it could be a psychological effect. On the average, the price is almost exactly where it was on this date a year ago. Always a very complex thing, but this is due to mostly the end of covid lockdowns, low supplies, and the fact that the four largest refineries in Texas all froze over and had to shut down. Still not going electric, Idaho used to have low gas prices, relatively-speaking, but not now because of mostly supply-side issues. Bummer.

 

[Van]

There are a variety of reasons we are involved in the Middle East.

But in terms of petroleum and natural gas, the US became a net exporter of refined petroleum produces in 2011. In 2014, the US became the third largest producer of crude oil, after Saudi Arabia and Russia, and the second-largest exporter of refined products, after Russia. in 2019, the US became a net exporter of refined petroleum produces and crude oil.

Our current obligations in the Middle East came long before the huge advances in fracking technology during torward the end of the George W. Bush Administration, and throughout the Obama Administration.


Because gasoline is not free. If the prices remained where they were, stateside drilling and extraction would completely shut down and we would be back to importing most of our oil from other countries. By having a moderate price for oil, we employ oil and gas workers, pump our nation's money back into our own economy instead of sending it to other nations. The oil and gas industry is served by almost all sectors of the American economy, so a moderate price for those produces lifts everyone.

It seems that those who shout "America First" would understand that instead of trying to complain about it. But of course, it is a stick they can use to beat Biden with, so we shouldn't look too closely at the stick, since the point is to beat up on Biden.

There are plenty of real things to criticize about Biden, but this one isn't it.

1) There are no good reasons why the USA needs to have troops in the middle east.

2) The average price of gasoline fell about 30% during the Trump years compared with the Obama years. None of the reasons given (loss of production incentive) prevented gasoline from being produced and sold at the average Trump price.

3) The average price of gasoline under Obama was 3.93 and 2.90 under Trump.

 

[Baptist Believer]

1) There are no good reasons why the USA needs to have troops in the middle east.

Uncritical Evangelical voter support for the nation-state of Israel is one of the primary reasons we will remain in the Middle East.

2) The average price of gasoline fell about 30% during the Trump years compared with the Obama years. None of the reasons given (loss of production incentive) prevented gasoline from being produced and sold at the average Trump price.

Yes, the oil and gas industry nearly collapsed under Trump due to the glut caused by the pandemic. That drives down the "average" price.

3) The average price of gasoline under Obama was 3.93 and 2.90 under Trump.

Your figures are wrong. Gas prices fluctuate for many reasons that may or may not have anything to do with what the President does.

Do you realize that gas prices were lower at the end of the Obama Administration than they were at the beginning of the Obama Administration? Do you realize that they were lower at the end of the Obama Administration than any month of the entire Trump Administration? Go look.

 

[Van]

Your figures are wrong. Go look.

Or your figures are left wing fiction.

 

[JonC]

What was the price Jan 2020 vs Jan 2021?

Is there data (I can't remember that far back)?

 

[Salty]

I actually keep track of all my gas purchases:
I only buy gas at Kwik-fill (that is my gas credit card)
and normally - there are only 3 KF stations I use - based on where I am at.


1 Jan 2020 --- 2.45
23 Feb ------------2.39
1 May------------1.99
29 Aug------------2.11
29 Aug-------------2.39 (near Albany*) (This was a Mobil gas station)
19 Nov-------------1.89
31 Dec--------------2.13

2021
18 Jan...................2.23
20 Jan - Biden becomes President
25 Jan...................2.29
22 Feb ..................2.57
3 Mar....................2.71
15 Mar....................2.77

Back in August, I drove to Albany to cast my ballot to
nominate President Trump to be our Candidate for our Party.
In addition, our County Chairman was voted to be on of the Electors
for NY had Mr. Trump won.

 

[just-want-peace]

The claim is that higher prices mean higher wages - which MAY be true AS LONG AS THOSE EARNING THOSE WAGES ARE STILL WORKING!
Those laid off due to the POTUS' EOs sure aren't reaping these benefits! Higher wages for the Arabs, et al, maybe, but not for Americans!!