Gaza Pullout Bears More Fruit

Indeed, CNN is generally reliable, but once they cheat the people they cheat in much bigger scale! It is quite interesting because many people are cheated by misleading media when it mislead the people to the war or to the false peace.

 

CNN quoted the same article from the same source.
I hope CNN didn'tmake mistakes in quoting the article.

http://websearch.cnn.com/search/search?source=cnn&invocationType=search%2Ftop&sites=web&query=suicide+bomber+grant

 

Sorry, but what you gave was a link for a search of the web. Basically what you would get by searching the web via Google. Here's the link if you check the "CNN.com" circle to search CNN.com stories:

http://search.cnn.com/pages/search.jsp?query=suicide%20bomber%20grant

As you see, there is nothing there. There is simply no proof that the story that started this thread is true. It may be true, but as of yet no one has offered any reliable proof that it is.

 

When some report is on the newspaper, especially on the big newspaper, there can hardly be untrue reporting. But what we have to be careful about is whether they exaggerated the contents or not, or whether the newspaper is reporting only half-truth or not etc.

Arutzsheva is quite big newspaper and it might be next to Haaretz in the size of Israeli newspapers.

Onething that I notice is that they support rather Orthodox Jewish and one can blame them as hardline against PLO or Hamas. If we stand on the issue of Israel without considering Bible, a certain reasonable compromise is the right solution and such hardline is wrong.

However, if we believe that Bible is the Words of God, then we find Land of Israel is given to people of Israel and Jerusalem is mentioned thousand times in the Bible while Kuran never mention about it. All the historical ruins discovered and the names of Geography prove that the land belongs to Israel assured by God and God will surely recover it for Israel.

Question is how they can resolve the problem or whether they should wait until Messiah comes.

I think what Israel should do first of all is that they should accept Yeshuah who was pierced by them before, as Masiach, then He will resolve all the problems.

 

It might be powered by Yahoo, you are right!

I got the copy as follows:

Abbas Approves Monthly Grant To Families of Suicide Bombers
... Abbas Approves Monthly Grant To Families of Suicide Bombers ... are paying for the families of the suicide bomber, a lazy bomber family with wife, five kids and parents that ...
www.freerepublic.com

 

I approach the current Israeli - Palestinian problem from a non-eschatological viewpoint.

There are about a zillion different eschatological viewpoints that Christians subscribe to and they all think they have the correct viewpoint. Personally, I've decided not to concern myself any further with advocating any particular eschatological viewpoint and just trust in God to wrap things up the way He decides to wrap them up.

 

General rule of proofing is that Onus is on the person who claims something or some points. In this case, as Br Curtis presented the souce, if anyone wants to express the distrust, then he or she should present the counter-proof, I think.

 

The situation of Israel can remain as concerns to the believers in Christ because it is related to the promise by God, and to the justice of the world. If you are not mindful about it, it is OK. Nobody forces the concern to anybody here I think.

 

Thank you. I have done so by presenting the counter-proof that no generally accepted, reliable news source has published the story.

 

On board which of the zillion competing eschatological viewpoints which all claim to be correctly interpreting the apocalyptic portions of the Bible?

 

That is not the counter-proof.
for example, you have to provide any proof which disprove the report or contradict any part of the report.

Can you prove that the source is not reliable?

 

Can you prove that the source is reliable?

If a generally accepted, reliable news source does not publish a story that would be as big of a deal as the story in the OP would be if verified, then that is prima facie evidence that the story should be doubted.

Now if you and others want to accept such a story as true, then go ahead. But I will not join you in doing so.

Plus, it is bad form to expect someone to prove a negative, i.e., prove that a story is not true. Any reasonable debate(which I know may be an oxymoron on the Baptist Board ) must proceed with the person posting a story being responsible to use due diligence in posting the story.

The story in the OP has yet to be shown to be true. I have used due diligence(even though I didn't post it) to try to prove its veracity and I find no evidence to prove such.

Now, this is my last post on this thread unless proof is provided that the story is indeed true and not just a made up story meant to smear Mr. Abbas.

 

I'm with KenH here. I'm not calling anyone a liar. It's just not confirmed. I don't trust unconfirmed reports.

Hope that this can be verified, as it would make good news.

 

I agree that the source may be less than reliable, but think about Jesse Dirkhising and how his story was avoided my most "reputable" news sources for a while.

 

3-page warning: This thread will be closed no sooner than 2:45 a.m. ET by one of the Moderators.

Lady Eagle,
Moderator

 

This is one of the silliest threads I've seen. Absolutely no substance, but vacillation as to authenticity. It should be up to the accuser to provide proof against a claim or an articles assertions.

 

Closed, as per previous warning.