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Get Rid of Ammo and the Second Amendment is Meaningless!

Palatka51

New Member
Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America . (they sell 9 mm, .45, etc ammo)

They normally buy spent brass from the US Dept of Defense - 'one time used' shell casings by our Military - from training on Military bases, etc. They buy the brass and then re-load for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Shops, Gun Clubs, Wal-Mart, and etc.

They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time.

This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and said that from now on the DoD will be destroying the brass - shredding it. It is no longer available to the Ammo makers - unless they just buy it in a scrap shredded condition (which they have no use for). The shredded brass is NOW going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap metal....after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling the brass to China for less money than Ammo manufacturers have been paying...plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do all the accounting paperwork. That sure helps the US economy now, doesn't it? Sell cheaper to China - and do not sell shells at all to a proven US business. Any agenda working here???? Obama going after our ammunition!!!!!

The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week - and the DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell Casings he had already bought! THE BRASS HAS NO VALUE TO THE AMMO MAKER IF IT IS DESTROYED/SHREDDED/MELTED. THE AMMO MANUFACTURER ONLY USES THE EMPTY BRASS SHELLS TO RELOAD DIFFERENT CALIBERS - MAINLY .223 BULLETS.

Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least Half of his 60 workers, within 2 - 3 months if the DoD no longer sells their spent brass to him. He has 2 - 3 months inventory of shells to use. By summer - he's out. If he has to buy new manufactured brass shells, then the cost of ammunitioin to the buyer will double and triple...plus Obama wants to add a 500% tax on each shell.

You can read more info and see the DoD letter to Georgia Arms here:

The Shootist Site
http://www.theshootist.net/



Georgia Arms Site:
http://georgia-arms.com/



Loss of US jobs, control of ammunition by the new Obama administration....liberalism at its best and on the way to socialism. When times get bad...and they will very soon...only the bad will have guns and ammo. This new "Obomanation" is going to make good citizens into criminals by trying to take our guns and ammo.
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
People knew what they were voting for when they voted for WoW Obama.

Too bad the policy was issued while Bush was president:

In March 2009, while reviewing a policy change issued by the DoD the previous year, the DLA halted or reclassified the sale of a broad category of items, a category which included spent cartridge cases.

Of course the whole thing doesn't matter since the decision was reversed a week after it was publicized.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/casings.asp

The issue was quickly resolved, however: a week later the DLA issued a press release announcing that upon completion of their review, they had determined that cartridge cases "could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for sale"

So, let's see the policy change was issued while Bush was president and it was decided under Obama that the shell casing could still be sold.

What were you saying again OldRegular?

Anyway, this just goes to prove that the DoD can do things without the President actually having a say in the matter. Remember folks, the President doesn't make each and every decision in the United States of America.
 

Palatka51

New Member
Well the policy has caused a huge shortage of ammo. I know that demand is up but if it wasn't for this policy there may have been enough in supply to meet the current demand. Kudos to BO if he has reversed that policy. Looks like, according to Snopes, the NRA stuck it's nose into the matter and the practice was stoped.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Matt Wade

WoW Obama is adamantly opposed to the second amendment. He will seek any way to eliminate an armed citizenry. President Bush was strongly pro second amendment.
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
Matt Wade

WoW Obama is adamantly opposed to the second amendment. He will seek any way to eliminate an armed citizenry. President Bush was strongly pro second amendment.


What's your point? I was just pointing out the facts. As I said at the end of my message, I don't believe either President influenced any part of these decisions. Presidents don't micro-manage every part of the government.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
matt wade;1401034 Presidents don't micro-manage every part of the government.[/QUOTE said:
You are correct!. Unfortunately a non elected bureaucracy makes many decisions. However, I believe the right to own guns will be strongly attacked by the Obama administration. That is my point.
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
You are correct!. Unfortunately a non elected bureaucracy makes many decisions. However, I believe the right to own guns will be strongly attacked by the Obama administration. That is my point.

That very well may true. His stance on guns is terrible and it's one of many faults he has. My point is that Obama has nothing to do with this thread :).
 

Palatka51

New Member
Now isn't that the pot calling the kettle black! :laugh:

Yep, and Matt you are correct about the OP. It is not Obama's doing. I am sorry for posting this thread. It was an email sent to me by a source I trusted. I will not do that again before I check on the facts.
 

blackbird

Active Member
I remember reading where years ago(Pre WW2)-----the US was selling scrap metal to Japan------who in turn turned the scrap into Imperial Navy Destroyers, Cruisers, Battleships, Aircraft Carriers, guns, bullets, granades-------need I say more
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
That doesn't matter to these fanatics.

You may be correct for the first time JC. I get more than disturbed when I realize that the president of the country I love believes in and facilitates the slaughter of the born and the just born and that professing Christians will vote to put this murderer in office.

This same person is apparently willing to let this country I love become the doormat of the world. He is also hesitant to protect our citizens by delaying action against terrorist hijackers.
 

Palatka51

New Member
I remember reading where years ago(Pre WW2)-----the US was selling scrap metal to Japan------who in turn turned the scrap into Imperial Navy Destroyers, Cruisers, Battleships, Aircraft Carriers, guns, bullets, granades-------need I say more

The British and us sold scrap metal to Germany as well.
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
Yep, and Matt you are correct about the OP. It is not Obama's doing. I am sorry for posting this thread. It was an email sent to me by a source I trusted. I will not do that again before I check on the facts.

No need to be sorry Mel. If it was true, I'd be up in arms with you :).
 
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