Besides death (by drowning), waterboarding can cause extreme pain, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, and lasting psychological damage.
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Gina Haspel Faces 'Morality' Test from Democrats
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If you have served in the military during war time, been captured by the enemy and suffered as much as McCain did without breaking you have the right to call him a traitor. Otherwise YOU are the chicken-heart traitor in league with our enemies. Now tell us what you have endured as a prisoner during wartime.
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McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment occurred on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[35][36] McCain fractured both arms and a leg when he ejected from the aircraft,[37] and nearly drowned after he parachuted into Trúc Bạch Lake. Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[35] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hỏa Lò Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[36]
Although McCain was seriously wounded and injured, his captors refused to treat him. They beat and interrogated him to get information, and he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a high-ranking admiral.[38] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[39][40]
McCain spent six weeks in the hospital, where he received marginal care. He had lost 50 pounds (23 kg), was in a chest cast, and his gray hair had turned as white as snow.[35] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi.[41] In December 1967, McCain was placed in a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live more than a week.[42] In March 1968, McCain was placed into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[43]
Beginning in August 1968, McCain was subjected to a program of severe torture.[47] He was bound and beaten every two hours; this punishment occurred at the same time that he was suffering from dysentery.[35][47] Further injuries brought McCain to “the point of suicide,” but his preparations were interrupted by guards. Eventually, McCain made an anti-U.S. propaganda "confession".[35] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he later wrote, "I had learned what we all learned over there: every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[48][49] Many U.S. POWs were tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements;[50] virtually all of them eventually yielded something to their captors.[51] McCain received two to three beatings weekly because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[52]
McCain refused to meet various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[53] From late 1969, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[54] while McCain continued actively to resist the camp authorities.[55] McCain and other prisoners cheered the U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972, viewing it as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[49][56]
McCain was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years until his release on March 14, 1973.[57] His wartime injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[58]
Not true.
I'm more inclined to believe McCain.
Politically I am disappointed with his recent performances but i can't bring myself to believe those things spoken against him.
OK he broke under the beatings and torture.
He admits it. Having served in an intel capacity- ANYBODY can be broken.
Do a Google on MK-ULTRA. Anybody can be broken or coerced into saying ANYTHING.
nuff said.
Politically I am disappointed with his recent performances but i can't bring myself to believe those things spoken against him.
OK he broke under the beatings and torture.
He admits it. Having served in an intel capacity- ANYBODY can be broken.
Do a Google on MK-ULTRA. Anybody can be broken or coerced into saying ANYTHING.
nuff said.
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Shore nuff?
I don't believe him about anything. He vowed to repeal Obamacare and then he single handedly prevented its repeal. He my friend, is a LIAR.
True he did defeat the vote, but name me one politician who has not lied.
That blatantly?
"Read my lips"
Lots of rumors about collaboration come from his POW experience, but his fellow POWs are mostly staying mum. It will be interesting to see how many attend his funeral or what they have to say later.
As for his politics, Mccain has always been about McCain. He's a mean spirited man that holds grudges forever. He's the kind that would vote against something good for the country, and that he promised to support, just to stick his finger in Trump's eye. He cares nothing for the opinions of his constituents or he wouldn't be an open borders pro amnesty supporter.
All in all, a thoroughly low life politician. His military history, good or bad, buys him no political capital from this Vietnam veteran.
In my opinion, he is the father of the modern worthless RINO movement. He was a deep state globalist masquerading as a conservative. Pure scum.
I wouldn't be that harsh as "scum" but nonetheless the Bush family does strike me as being too far left of center to be considered true conservatives.
They are globalist traitors.
Tip O'neall played Herbert like a banjo string on that deal.
PLUNKETY, TWANG, TWANG!
Good. Bullets can cause the brain to follow them out the exit hole.