Just keep movin' those goalposts. It's fun.
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Gingrich: The Clintons started the so-called Russian collusion scandal and may be destroyed by it
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Just keep movin' those goalposts. It's fun.
Nobody, except you, has moved the goalpost. Parol evidence is evidence that is outside the scope of the inquiry.
So far everything you have posted is outside the scope of the inquiry.
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He was an unpaid volunteer. He was nothing. And again, that is not evidence of collusion. If it were the indictment would have said so.
Unpaid volunteer? Hardly. He was a foreign policy advisor. Trump knew him. Trump called him a "consultant". I'm pretty sure consultants get paid.
Interview with Washington Post:
RYAN: Thank you… We’ve heard you’re going to be announcing your foreign policy team shortly… Any you can share with us?
TRUMP: Well, I hadn’t thought of doing it, but if you want I can give you some of the names… Walid Phares, who you probably know, PhD, adviser to the House of Representatives caucus, and counter-terrorism expert; Carter Page, PhD; George Papadopoulos, he’s an energy and oil consultant, excellent guy; the Honorable Joe Schmitz, [former] inspector general at the Department of Defense; [retired] Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg; and I have quite a few more. But that’s a group of some of the people that we are dealing with. We have many other people in different aspects of what we do, but that’s a representative group.
Opinion | A transcript of Donald Trump’s meeting with The Washington Post editorial board
The inquiry is not the subject. The subject is the OP.
Yes, which has nothing to do with Trump or his campaign. It is about the Clintons, so, anything other than that is outside the scope of the inquiry.
Yes. He said "he’s an energy and oil consultant." A consultant to the oil and gas industry.
Yes, by the oil and gas industry, who he worked for! He was not paid by either the Ben Carson campaign, who he originally volunteered for, nor the Trump campaign.
I suggest you read the "Statement of Offense" to which he pled guilty (which was done to make it all go away, which was much easier and much cheaper than battling it out in court).
His "material false statement" was that, at the time he learned from the "professor" that the Russians had emails which showed HRC to be "dirty" he was still working for the Carson campaign.
He learned of the emails from the "professor" on March 14, 2016 and volunteered for the Trump campaign in April of 2016.
Do the math!
The FBI claimed he was working for the Trump Campaign because he had been offered a position with them which he had not as yet accepted, so that meant he was "working for the Trump campaign."
This is typical of law enforcement lying to try to force a person to testify against someone else in order to avoid court. His lawyer outsmarted them by pleading him guilty.
And if you read the guilty plea you will notice the recommended sentence says "Based upon the agreed total offense level and the estimated criminal history category set forth above, your client's estimated Sentencing Guidelines range is zero months to six months' imprisonment (the "Estimated Guidelines Range")."
0 months to 6 months is the penalty for a petty misdemeanor.
Maybe you should read the statement again. He learned of the emails from the professor on April 26th, over a month from the time he officially joined the Trump campaign.
In fact this is what he pled guilty about. Lying to the FBI about not being with the Trump campaign when he first learned of the emails from the "professor".
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Where is the hard evidence he was paid and even if he was that proves nothing except "opposition research" (as the Clinton machine loves to claim on their own behalf).
There you have it.
Except for Trump haters and the left wing media, this is a nothing deal and won't affect Trump at all.
Still no collusion.
This is ASSUMING that the radical left will, at some point, (a fact I am reluctant to accept), will exercise some simlance of common sense.
No, Paps was an unpaid volunteer and it looks like he was fooled by the Professor and that woman who pretended to be Putin's niece. Even trying to set up meetings and having Trump's people refuse them is not collusion and you can tell the MSM were disappointed yesterday.
So far, all the found collusion has been Russians buying 100k worth of propaganda for FB, so what? They could have hacked all those emails but that does not implicate Trump. The collusion charge was just a way to get rid of Trump but it didn't work.
So far, all the found collusion has been Russians buying 100k worth of propaganda for FB, so what? They could have hacked all those emails but that does not implicate Trump. The collusion charge was just a way to get rid of Trump but it didn't work.