"Girly hats" for the Marines?

[JohnDeereFan]

Changed my mind ...

Not brown shirts' hat but ...

I was thinking more along the lines of Claude Rains in Casablanca.

 

[padredurand]

Marines do not wear hats. They wear covers. And this shows the idiocy of liberalism.

I just hope they make the threads deep enough so the new cover doesn't blow off your Jarhead. :laugh: Ooh Rah!

 

[Revmitchell]

I just hope they make the threads deep enough so the new cover doesn't blow off your Jarhead. :laugh: Ooh Rah!

Grapes like mine require a greater circumference and a whole lot more material.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Him too, but Inspector Renault was a policeman not a soldier.

I was thinking more along the lines of Claude Rains in Casablanca.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

This is a picture of then SMaj H.L. Hulbert (field commissoned to CAPT) c. 1917. Note his cover looks to be the cover the proposed cover is modeled on.
As for the campaign hat, it's still worn by DIs. But it's always been worn with utility\field\undress greens, never with dress blues.

What I see is a move in the Army, Marine Corps, and Air Force to dress uniforms which are just that dress uniforms. Thus, the move to pre-WW1 blue for the Army. The Air Force has a proposed uniform modeled on the uniform worn by "Hap" Arnold. In this case the move is away from the "bus drivers" style of cover.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Still looks like the French gendarmes, even if they have worn one like it before.

 

[SolaSaint]

OK, I don't see anyone asking the obvious. What in the world is Obama doing making uniform policy decisions for the USMC? Surely this story is wrong, doesn't he have more pressing issues at hand like Fundamentally changing America to a Socialist state?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

The French military and police (including the Gendarmes) have worn the kepi since the turn of the last century. FYI, Inspectors Clouseau and Renault are ordinary civilian policemen, not Gendarmes. And it wouldn't be the first time one of the services was inspired by French uniform styleing.

Still looks like the French gendarmes, even if they have worn one like it before.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Yeup, I was right this from the complete NY Post article:

The controversial covers have been dubbed the “Dan Daly” hat, after a World War I sergeant from Long Island who twice won the Medal of Honor. But some Marines love the old hat, which has been in use since 1922 and think the new hat is a glorified “porter’s cap.” The new Daly model is based on a style the Marines used from 1904 to 1918

The article further notes the hat is in the proposal stage and has not been adopted.

This is a picture of then SMaj H.L. Hulbert (field commissoned to CAPT) c. 1917. Note his cover looks to be the cover the proposed cover is modeled on.
As for the campaign hat, it's still worn by DIs. But it's always been worn with utility\field\undress greens, never with dress blues.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yeup, I was right this from the complete NY Post article:The article further notes the hat is in the proposal stage and has not been adopted.

Throw that proposal in the BO garbage heap where it belongs.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Yeup, I was right this from the complete NY Post article:The article further notes the hat is in the proposal stage and has not been adopted.

But this is also in the article ...

“The Marine Corps is being ‘encouraged’ by DoD to standardize on a unisex/universal dress and service cap,” Marine brass noted in an internal memo obtained by The Post.

As is this ...

Marines have until Friday [Note: that's today] to cast their votes on whether to adopt them or keep the old hat with modifications. Marine Corps head Gen. James Amos will make the final decision.

Most male Marines don't like the "unisex" look, but given Amos has the final say, it's likely going to be more than just "a proposal."

 

[Revmitchell]

“I’m appalled that the Department of Defense finds that gender neutral uniforms is their priority right now," Duff said. "Meanwhile we aren’t able to pay the death benefits of our marines and soldiers killed on the battlefield last week during the shutdown.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...niform-change-is-appalling/?intcmp=latestnews

 

[Squire Robertsson]

This may become more than a proposal. But will it be implimented in a "timely manner". I don't think so. It will die a quiet death.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

You were right, Squire. It's official:

http://www.hqmc.marines.mil/News/Ne...rine-corps-not-changing-male-dress-cover.aspx​

FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, Md. --

Recent headlines in the media have created confusion regarding a Marine Corps uniform item, the male dress cover. Some in the media have implied that the President of the United States directed a change in this dress cover.

Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. James F. Amos said, “the President in no way, shape or form directed the Marine Corps to change our uniform cover.”

While the Marine Corps Uniform Board is currently looking for a new cover, or cap, for female Marines because the current manufacturer is going out of business, there is no intent to change the current male Marine dress cover.
A survey released by the Marine Corps Uniform Board eliciting input from Marines in regard to uniform items, sought opinions about the “Dan Daly-style” cover.

Done deal.

 

[poncho]

I like em! They'll give the Marines a more international flair like the UN blue patch and berets did for the Army. Might as well look the part of a "global force for good" if you're going to be one.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

“I’m appalled that the Department of Defense finds that gender neutral uniforms is their priority right now," Duff said. "Meanwhile we aren’t able to pay the death benefits of our marines and soldiers killed on the battlefield last week during the shutdown.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...niform-change-is-appalling/?intcmp=latestnews

What can any Marine expect from nasty civilians? Semper Fidelis Gunny!:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

[Squire Robertsson]

A proposal like this is not an instananeous proposition. It tkaes longer than the current food fight for something like this make it to this stage. I would hazard it was first conceived in late 2012.

“I’m appalled that the Department of Defense finds that gender neutral uniforms is their priority right now," Duff said. "Meanwhile we aren’t able to pay the death benefits of our marines and soldiers killed on the battlefield last week during the shutdown.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...niform-change-is-appalling/?intcmp=latestnews

 

[Revmitchell]

A proposal like this is not an instananeous proposition. It tkaes longer than the current food fight for something like this make it to this stage. I would hazard it was first conceived in late 2012.

As a Marine I can tell you that when the Commandant speaks it can happen over night.

 

[go2church]

Of all the things in all the world.

 

[Sapper Woody]

I like em! They'll give the Marines a more international flair like the UN blue patch and berets did for the Army. Might as well look the part of a "global force for good" if you're going to be one.

For the record, while still used in ceremonies, the beret is practically out the door. It's only used for dressy occasions now. Our daily cover is the patrol cap.