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GI's with no Chinesee Viurs shot - being kicked out

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Ok.....so you are saying the theory that covid is a New World Order to decrease the world population IS NOT a conspiracy theory. I disagree.
Yeah, I also disagree that I said that, or even addressed it. But go ahead and try to prove your theory that I did. :Wink

The problem with using “conspiracy theorist” or “conspiracy theory” as a pejorative is that conspiracies really do happen, thus conspiracy theories are not all imaginary or fantastical explanations of what really happened.

Some conspiracy theories can be true, and some definitely are. They must be taken on a case by case basis by those who are actually interested in pursuing them. This doesn’t mean someone has to accept a particular theory or reject it. Some people may not care one way or the other, depending on the issue.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Yeah, I also disagree that I said that, or even addressed it. But go ahead and try to prove your theory that I did. :Wink

The problem with using “conspiracy theorist” or “conspiracy theory” as a pejorative is that conspiracies really do happen, thus conspiracy theories are not all imaginary or fantastical explanations of what really happened.

Some conspiracy theories can be true, and some definitely are. They must be taken on a case by case basis by those who are actually interested in pursuing them. This doesn’t mean someone has to accept a particular theory or reject it. Some people may not care one way or the other, depending on the issue.
I don't get it. That was a post (of mine) you disagreed with.

I was not using conspiracy theory as a pejorative at all. I was saying Wingman and Revmitchell are conspiracy theorists.

The truth is genome sequencing is practiced (it is not a myth). Covid does exist. We know how many shotmmts have been given. The Freemasons are not making covid. And the earth is not flat.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

Well-Known Member
I don't get it. That was a post (of mine) you disagreed with. ....
Here’s another example of conspiracy theory.

It wasn’t that long ago that Jussie Smollet conspired with a couple of Nigerians to make it look as though he was the victim of a hate crime perpetrated by homophobic, white supremacist Trump supporters.

Many in the national media were quick to back his claim which naturally involved denouncing Trump and all of his supporters as racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc.

Though some righlty theorized it had been a conspiracy, that same national media, who were likely not in on the original plot, denounced these “conspiracy theorists.”

Evidently, there were even others behind the scenes conspiring to cover up the conspiracy. The conspiracy theory was correct, and the reality was even worse than that original conspiracy.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Here’s another example of conspiracy theory.

It wasn’t that long ago that Jussie Smollet conspired with a couple of Nigerians to make it look as though he was the victim of a hate crime perpetrated by homophobic, white supremacist Trump supporters.

Many in the national media were quick to back his claim which naturally involved denouncing Trump and all of his supporters as racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc.

Though some righlty theorized it had been a conspiracy, that same national media, who were likely not in on the original plot, denounced these “conspiracy theorists.”

Evidently, there were even others behind the scenes conspiring to cover up the conspiracy. The conspiracy theory was correct, and the reality was even worse than that original conspiracy.
There are a lot of examples.

The government is misreporting vaccine numbers, covid deaths, etc. to gain/ maintain power.

The government invented the story that men landed on the moon.

And then there's the Mel Gibson movie I'd like to watch again.
 

Wingman68

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Odd. I know Wallgreens and CVS here (North Augusta) has Comirnaty. As does Charleston AFB and Eisenhower AMC.

Doesn't matter since the FDA approved the vaccine with the effective name Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and the trade name Comirnaty based on the Pfizer-BioNTech data. Even an idiot should know it is same.
Pfizer’s Comirnaty Available Abroad, Not in U.S.
December 23, 2021 Peter D'Abrosca
comrinaty_840x480.jpg



not being shipped in the United States.

“Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced they will supply an additional 100 million doses of COMIRNATY®, the companies’ COVID-19 vaccine, to the 27 European Union (EU) member states in 2021,” Pfizer said in an April press release. “This announcement is a result of the European Commission’s (EC) decision to exercise its option to purchase an additional 100 million doses under its expanded Advanced Purchase Agreement signed on February 17, 2021. This brings the total number of doses to be delivered to the EU to 600 million.”

Comirnaty was approved by the FDA in August.

The company did not respond to The Star News Network’s request for comment Wednesday.

It has said that it will continue to ship the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) version of its vaccine in the United States until the supply runs out or expires.

In several places, this policy has caused legal issues.

The Ohio Star reported Tuesday that along with the University of Cincinnati and the University of Ohio, Miami University in Ohio is being sued for over its vaccine mandates.

In those cases, lawyers are challenging the validity of the vaccine mandates based on an Ohio law that took effect in October banning public universities from imposing vaccine mandates for non-FDA-approved vaccines. Since those FDA-approved vaccines are not being shipped or distributed in the United States, attorneys argue that the universities are in violation of the law.

Similarly, a federal lawsuit by military members in the Northern District of Florida, which was eventually thrown out on different grounds, said the Department of Defense’s (DOD) vaccine mandate was also invalid because Comirnaty was not available in the U.S.

The DOD argued that the EUA version of the vaccine was interchangeable with Comirnaty, but Judge Allen Winsor didn’t buy that argument.

“In short, what people think of as the Pfizer vaccine has two distinct FDA approval statuses,” Winsor wrote in his ruling. “It is licensed—that is, fully approved—for the two-dose application in those 16 and older. But it is unlicensed and operating under an EUA— that is, an emergency use authorization—for other applications, like for children under 16 and for certain third shots. Nonetheless, the FDA describes the two as the ‘same formulation’ and ‘interchangeabl[e]’ for medical purposes.”

“Notably, though, the plaintiffs have shown that the DOD is requiring injections from vials not labeled ‘Comirnaty,’” he wrote later in the ruling. “Indeed, defense counsel could not even say whether vaccines labeled ‘Comirnaty’ exist at all. (Although the DOD’s response said it had an adequate Comirnaty supply, it later clarified that it was mandating vaccines from EUA-labeled vials…).”

He went on to call the DOD’s argument “unconvincing.”

It remains unclear when Pfizer’s Comirnaty vaccine will be available in the United States. The company has not responded to multiple inquiries on that front.
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I’ll be calling Walgreen & CVS in North Augusta……..I’ll be back.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Pfizer’s Comirnaty Available Abroad, Not in U.S.
December 23, 2021 Peter D'Abrosca
comrinaty_840x480.jpg



not being shipped in the United States.

“Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced they will supply an additional 100 million doses of COMIRNATY®, the companies’ COVID-19 vaccine, to the 27 European Union (EU) member states in 2021,” Pfizer said in an April press release. “This announcement is a result of the European Commission’s (EC) decision to exercise its option to purchase an additional 100 million doses under its expanded Advanced Purchase Agreement signed on February 17, 2021. This brings the total number of doses to be delivered to the EU to 600 million.”

Comirnaty was approved by the FDA in August.

The company did not respond to The Star News Network’s request for comment Wednesday.

It has said that it will continue to ship the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) version of its vaccine in the United States until the supply runs out or expires.

In several places, this policy has caused legal issues.

The Ohio Star reported Tuesday that along with the University of Cincinnati and the University of Ohio, Miami University in Ohio is being sued for over its vaccine mandates.

In those cases, lawyers are challenging the validity of the vaccine mandates based on an Ohio law that took effect in October banning public universities from imposing vaccine mandates for non-FDA-approved vaccines. Since those FDA-approved vaccines are not being shipped or distributed in the United States, attorneys argue that the universities are in violation of the law.

Similarly, a federal lawsuit by military members in the Northern District of Florida, which was eventually thrown out on different grounds, said the Department of Defense’s (DOD) vaccine mandate was also invalid because Comirnaty was not available in the U.S.

The DOD argued that the EUA version of the vaccine was interchangeable with Comirnaty, but Judge Allen Winsor didn’t buy that argument.

“In short, what people think of as the Pfizer vaccine has two distinct FDA approval statuses,” Winsor wrote in his ruling. “It is licensed—that is, fully approved—for the two-dose application in those 16 and older. But it is unlicensed and operating under an EUA— that is, an emergency use authorization—for other applications, like for children under 16 and for certain third shots. Nonetheless, the FDA describes the two as the ‘same formulation’ and ‘interchangeabl[e]’ for medical purposes.”

“Notably, though, the plaintiffs have shown that the DOD is requiring injections from vials not labeled ‘Comirnaty,’” he wrote later in the ruling. “Indeed, defense counsel could not even say whether vaccines labeled ‘Comirnaty’ exist at all. (Although the DOD’s response said it had an adequate Comirnaty supply, it later clarified that it was mandating vaccines from EUA-labeled vials…).”

He went on to call the DOD’s argument “unconvincing.”

It remains unclear when Pfizer’s Comirnaty vaccine will be available in the United States. The company has not responded to multiple inquiries on that front.
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I’ll be calling Walgreen & CVS in North Augusta……..I’ll be back.
I'm going off what those places said. I got the Moderna vaccine, not the FDA aporoved Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Like the federal judge stated, medically it is the same. The whiners are only anti-covid-vaxers who are mot getting vaccinated anyway.

You never answered the question.

Ate you denying that you posted articles stating covid does not exist, is a Freemason conspiracy, or that it is a New World conspiracy to reduce the world population?
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

Well-Known Member
There are a lot of examples.

The government is misreporting vaccine numbers, covid deaths, etc. to gain/ maintain power.

The government invented the story that men landed on the moon.

And then there's the Mel Gibson movie I'd like to watch again.
The Jussie Smollet conspiracy theory referenced in my post turned out to be a real conspiracy very much as theorized.

Is your post saying those in its list are also correctly theorized conspiracies? It doesn't seem to be making any distinction in result.
 

Wingman68

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Site Supporter
I'm going off what those places said. I got the Moderna vaccine, not the FDA aporoved Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

You never answered the question.

Ate you denying that you posted articles stating covid does not exist, is a Freemason conspiracy, or that it is a New World conspiracy to reduce the world population?
You ignore answering quite often.

It is difficult for us laymen to do a search since our content is not available to us. You, however, have full access. Should be a piece of cake to provide said links.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
The Jussie Smollet conspiracy theory referenced in my post turned out to be a real conspiracy very much as theorized.

Is your post saying those in its list are also correctly theorized conspiracies? It doesn't seem to be making any distinction in result.
But that is not, by definition, a conspiracy theory.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
You ignore answering quite often.

It is difficult for us laymen to do a search since our content is not available to us. You, however, have full access. Should be a piece of cake to provide said links.
It was your post. Do you deny it?

If so then I'll provide the link.

If you can't remember a few months ago then use the search feature. It is avaliable even to you peons. :Wink
 

Wingman68

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Site Supporter
I agree with this post.


It was your post. I will provide the link IF you deny you posted those articles. I believe everybody here knows you posted the articles so the only reason for me to provide a link is to prove you a liar.

Do again, are you insisting you did not post an article stating covid does not exist?
Sound like a cross examination. I think I’ll abstain, like others should have who walked into a trap. No one was aware of the unspoken rule you came up with that when you post an article it’s the same as your own words. Ludicrous. What has been done to others is duplicitous at best. Better call out the troops, this one has again gone off script. It’s a pattern.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

Well-Known Member
But that is not, by definition, a conspiracy theory.
Yeah, so Merriam-Webster says, since 1863. Wesbster’s doesn’t have it. Guess I'm old school. :Wink

My point about its pejorative use, which is its general intention, and its pitfalls still stands.

Those who use the term pejoratively are often conspiracy theorists themselves, or even actual conspirators. Then there are the parrots who are really neither and wouldn’t know the difference.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Sound like a cross examination. I think I’ll abstain, like others should have who walked into a trap. No one was aware of the unspoken rule you came up with that when you post an article it’s the same as your own words. Ludicrous. What has been done to others is duplicitous at best. Better call out the troops, this one has again gone off script. It’s a pattern.
No. Not a cross examination. Consider it an integrity check.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Yeah, so Merriam-Webster says, since 1863. Wesbster’s doesn’t have it. Guess I'm old school. :Wink

My point about its pejorative use, which is its general intention, and its pitfalls still stands.

Those who use the term pejoratively are often conspiracy theorists themselves, or even actual conspirators. Then there are the parrots who are really neither and wouldn’t know the difference.
Yea....l know how you feel. Mine is the "new math". :Wink
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
???

@Wingman68 must be hitting the eggnog nog a bit early this year.
:Whistling

For the record I have not deleted anything.....(I've been waking through gardens looking at Christmas lights).
 

Wingman68

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Site Supporter
People who saw my post will know. Some like to bring discomfort to others with name calling, degrading posts, etc. Those posts don’t get deleted.
Funny thing too……the likes & winner updoots I got are gone too, like it never even happened. I copied it, it did happen.
 
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