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Giuliani: ‘Truth isn’t truth’

Reynolds

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I find that unbelievable, especially since the definition of scarlet is "a brilliant red color." I don't suppose Hannity (who can't decide if he was a client of Cohen) gave evidence that such a thing occurred. If he can't demonstrate that anecdote, there's no reason to believe it.
Believe what you want. I don't know whether it did or did not happen. If Trump's attorneys believe it and similar instances happened then they would be fools to advise Trump to talk to the FBI.
I still say Trump should be given the same interview terms as Hillary. 1. Not under oath. 2. Pre determined innocence regardless of what is said in interview.
 

carpro

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Truth is truth. That some people who are Christians are willing to throw basic Christian teachings overboard to support Trump flabbergasts and greatly saddens me. No wonder the public perception of evangelicals is in tatters, as well as the Catholic Church after last week’s revelations.

Truth is truth. That some people who are Christians are willing to throw basic Christian teachings overboard to criticize Trump even when he's doing the right thing flabbergasts and greatly saddens me. No wonder the public perception of evangelicals is in tatters.
 

Baptist Believer

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Believe what you want. I don't know whether it did or did not happen. If Trump's attorneys believe it and similar instances happened then they would be fools to advise Trump to talk to the FBI.
It's pretty obvious to anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in the anecdote being true, that the anecdote is false.
 

Baptist Believer

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Truth is truth.
Glad you agree.

That some people who are Christians are willing to throw basic Christian teachings overboard to criticize Trump even when he's doing the right thing flabbergasts and greatly saddens me.
I don't think I've ever criticized the President for doing the right thing. But I have certainly criticized him for doing many wrong things.
 

Reynolds

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I remember back in the early 1980s when I was heading off to college, church people warned me that the "secular humanists" and the philosophy classes would try to make me believe that objective truth doesn't exist.

In college, what i already believed was affirmed. Truth is objective, and all truth related to reality. Since God exists in reality, all truth is also God's truth.

Now, since the advent of Candidate Trump, I have Christians telling me that objective truth doesn't exist and the non-Christians reaffirming their commitment to truth. Moreover, Jesus still claims that He is the way, the truth, and the life.

I'm going to stick with Jesus and objective truth and recognize that those who claim there is no objective truth are teaching the lies of the evil one.
The problem is that when 20 people witness the exact same event, you will receive 20 different accounts of the event. There is objective truth. There is absolute truth. One doing his best to be truthful, can badly miss both. Cameras in patrol cars taught me this lesson in dramatic form. I was part of the event. I witnessed the event. I remember the event. I write down the event in my report. I watch the tape and find my memory was not accurate. The truth as I saw it, was wrong.
 

Revmitchell

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The problem is that when 20 people witness the exact same event, you will receive 20 different accounts of the event. There is objective truth. There is absolute truth. One doing his best to be truthful, can badly miss both. Cameras in patrol cars taught me this lesson in dramatic form. I was part of the event. I witnessed the event. I remember the event. I write down the event in my report. I watch the tape and find my memory was not accurate. The truth as I saw it, was wrong.

You are wasting your time trying to explain it. TDS is a powerful disease.
 

carpro

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I don't worship him.

Neither do I. I've been highly critical of him at times. But I don't have to dream up things to criticize him for. He gives me plenty of opportunity on his own. But I also don't mind defending him from some of the fluff and lies the trump haters attack him for.
 

Alcott

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“President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani on Sunday claimed "truth isn't truth" when trying to explain why the president should not testify for special counsel Robert Mueller for fear of being trapped into a lie that could lead to a perjury charge.”

Giuliani: ‘Truth isn’t truth’

Rudy Giuliani: “Truth isn’t truth.”

Pontius Pilate: “What is truth?”

Perhaps you should ask Rahab, a liar who was in the Hall of Faith in Hebrews.
 

Benjamin

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First, it is untruthful if one were to deny that in most any instance there is a liberal that wants Trump to testify for any other reason other than to try to catch him in a perjury trap.

Second, I heard the interview with Giuliani and the context of “truth is not truth” was that Trump would tell the truth but someone else would tell “their truth” but the liberal prosecutors would choose the second explanation and try to make Trump’s truth an untruth.

So as per the Op trying to present his headline as a complete truth:

“If you take part of the truth, and try to make that part of the truth, all of the truth, then that part of the truth becomes an untruth.” ~ Adrian Rogers

Third, when in the heck did Liberals ever become interested in the truth???
 
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