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God-given unalienable rights - non-sense!

Wesley Briggman

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‘Gone Off The Rails’: Colorado Dems Stir Up Hornet’s Nest After Passing One Of America’s Most Extreme Anti-Gun Laws
“This bill is putting a paywall in front of a God-given, unalienable right — and that’s the right to self-defense and the right to keep a free nation,” Winter, assistant minority leader in the Colorado House, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

If, indeed the right is unalienable, then no "paywall" can have any effect on its implementation!

Definition of UNALIENABLE
unalienable: impossible to take away or give up : inalienable


Declaration of Independence: A Transcription
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I do not read anywhere in scripture where God issued to all men any endowments or unalienable rights.

Since life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are among these so-called unalienable rights, what are the other rights not revealed?

What a bunch of nonsense!
 

Charlie24

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‘Gone Off The Rails’: Colorado Dems Stir Up Hornet’s Nest After Passing One Of America’s Most Extreme Anti-Gun Laws
“This bill is putting a paywall in front of a God-given, unalienable right — and that’s the right to self-defense and the right to keep a free nation,” Winter, assistant minority leader in the Colorado House, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

If, indeed the right is unalienable, then no "paywall" can have any effect on its implementation!

Definition of UNALIENABLE
unalienable: impossible to take away or give up : inalienable


Declaration of Independence: A Transcription
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I do not read anywhere in scripture where God issued to all men any endowments or unalienable rights.

Since life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are among these so-called unalienable rights, what are the other rights not revealed?

What a bunch of nonsense!

It's based on the Law of Moses (justifiable homicide) that man can protect life and property without blood for blood being shed in justice.

Exodus 22:2

"If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him."

Back then they had swords, spears, and many other weapons for protection, today Charlie has shotguns, rifles, and my personal favorite, 1911 Colt .45, that I learned to use in the Army.
 

Charlie24

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It's based on the Law of Moses (justifiable homicide) that man can protect life and property without blood for blood being shed in justice.

Exodus 22:2

"If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him."

Back then they had swords, spears, and many other weapons for protection, today Charlie has shotguns, rifles, and my personal favorite, 1911 Colt .45, that I learned to use in the Army.

I'm from the old school that believes, God created man, and Sam Colt made them equal.
 

Van

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‘Gone Off The Rails’: Colorado Dems Stir Up Hornet’s Nest After Passing One Of America’s Most Extreme Anti-Gun Laws
“This bill is putting a paywall in front of a God-given, unalienable right — and that’s the right to self-defense and the right to keep a free nation,” Winter, assistant minority leader in the Colorado House, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

If, indeed the right is unalienable, then no "paywall" can have any effect on its implementation!

Definition of UNALIENABLE
unalienable: impossible to take away or give up : inalienable


Declaration of Independence: A Transcription
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I do not read anywhere in scripture where God issued to all men any endowments or unalienable rights.

Since life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are among these so-called unalienable rights, what are the other rights not revealed?

What a bunch of nonsense!
Your premise has some merit. Whether a theist who believes humans have inherent rights bestowed by God, or an Atheist who believes humans have inherent rights that include the right to compel others, the result is the same, the human "right" to make their own choices can be deprived, including the "right" to life as a result of natural causes or man-made

So I think the idea would better be expressed as inherent rights that should not be deprived by other humans. And when someone is working at depriving humans of their inherent rights, those humans have the "right" to strive to maintain them. No taxation without representation actually reflects no compulsion, but consent may allow similar action.
 

atpollard

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I do not read anywhere in scripture where God issued to all men any endowments or unalienable rights.

Exodus 20:13-17 [NKJV]
13 "You shall not murder.
14 "You shall not commit adultery.
15 "You shall not steal.
16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that [is] your neighbor's."


That which God has forbidden, men are forbidden to do. Thus it is “self evident” that man are, and by God given decree ought to be, free from the fear of such things.

Mankind is forbidden from committing murder, therefore men have an inalienable right to be free from the fear of being murdered.

Mankind is forbidden from adultery, therefore men have have an inalienable right to be free from the fear of being betrayed in the sacred marraige relationship.

Mankind is forbidden from stealing, therefore men have an inalienable right to be secure in their possessions (free from fear of being robbed).

Mankind is forbidden from bearing false witness, therefore men have an inalienable right to be free from the fear of being unjustly spoken about, slandered and lied to with impunity.

Mankind is forbidden from coveting, therefore men have an inalienable right to be secure in their possessions and free from the fear that people will seek you harm out of a ‘love of money’ or a desire to take what God has given you.

The Bible is never naive … it very much recognizes the existance of EVIL. However the existance of evil does not negate the law of God or the right of people to have what God has declared we should have … freedom from these specific acts. The Bible even offers men two bits of advice for dealing with those that would seek to violate our inalienable rights:

1. Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. [Matthew 10:16]
2. It is not for no reason that rulers wield the sword. [Romans 13:4]
 

kyredneck

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And he said unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet; and he that hath none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword. Lu 22

But then:

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And behold, one of them that were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and smote the servant of the high priest, and struck off his ear.

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Then saith Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Mt 26
 
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