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God hates sinners

HankD

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Originally, I thought about just replying "So?" when you just posted a verse. I know the verse. I've read the Bible. If that verse would have changed my view, my view would already have been changed. When you post a verse, you should attempt to tell me how it helps your position. Your posted verse supports me by distinguishing states of sinner and saint, and saying God loves the saint in that while we were sinners, Christ died for us. It doesn't say God loves sinners. God didn't love the sinner Esau. That's what it means when the Bible says God hated Esau.
I disagree. There are some sinners that God loves, that's why I posted the verse I did (But I'm wondering now if maybe we are on the same page)?

Also:

Mark 10
17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God.

HankD
 

evangelist6589

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You've yet to deal with anything I said in my post, nor any of the Scriptures provided which refute your position. You're merely pitting Scripture against Scripture as if the verses you post refute the others given. They do not and your practice certainly is not 2 Timothy 2:15.

Here is you in a nutshell:

You don't trust the Scriptures given because they are an English translation, by your own words.

You do trust the Scriptures you feel refute the others even though they too are from an English translation

You conveniently trust yourself yet do not trust translations, unless you think they conveniently support your position, then the translation is just fine.

You will not address the passages given.

You hold to a view of 'God' from Scripture that is tainted by your tradition and presuppositions. Therefore any other revealed truth given you in the Scriptures is to be rejected by a misinterpreted proof text you provide. The proof text proves the other Scriptures as plain wrong, and this is exactly how you are using Scripture.

Internet Theologian/Preacher4Truth;

It sounds as if you are speaking to a progressive. The poster is not progressive, just confused.
 
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