God is a what?

[dan e.]

I'm sure you meant that its TRANSLATED "Almighty."

ADON is singular for lord. AI is the plural suffix. The plural form is used to denote majesty.

I think you should study your Hebrew instead of your KJV.

hmmmm.....very interesting, indeed.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

Peachtree,
not one verse in the Old Testament has shaddai translated as breast.

I think you need to study

 

[PreachTREE]

Peachtree,
not one verse in the Old Testament has shaddai translated as breast.

I think you need to study

But would you agree that "God of breasts" is a POSSIBLE translation?

 

[mrtumnus]

Well, I took the rest of her comment in context, when she declares herself that she is not saying God is female...but is explaining to us that she believes it is describing His nature.

Basic reading, really.

Dan, I appreciate your reading my posts in context and not trying to pick out pieces to say something that I'm clearly not.

And for standing up for me too.:thumbs:

 

[standingfirminChrist]

No, 'God of Breasts' could not be a possible translation.

'El shaddai' means "God Almighty, who is All Sufficient"

'shad' means breast

'shaddai' does not mean breast.

ai is not plural

 

[mrtumnus]

I'm not the greatest peacemaker but I'll take a shot at it. Having been on the BB a while I should probably know better. :tear:

male (ml)
adj.
1.
a. Of, relating to, or designating the sex that has organs to produce spermatozoa for fertilizing ova. Can we agree that since he is not a man with organs this does not describe God?

b. Characteristic of or appropriate to this sex; masculine.
Can we all agree that this is true of God?

n.
1. A member of the sex that begets young by fertilizing ova. He did do this with Mary, but by super natural means, agreed?

2. A man or boy.
Based on SFIC reference to Num. 23:19 I think we all agree this is not describing God.

fe·male (fml)
adj.
1.
a. Of or denoting the sex that produces ova or bears young. Other than the obscure verse relating to the womb, this is clearly not an attribute of God, agreed?
b. Characteristic of or appropriate to this sex; feminine.
This is where it gets a little blurry because of our cultural hang-ups. But, can we agree that God is not a macho, give me cup of coffee kind of "guy", nor a limp wristed priss?
However, God does possess attributes that we in the West often think of as "feminine" such as being nurturing, gentle, and tender.

God uses scripture to reveal, dare I say "himself", to us and in this venue he exclusively uses male terms and mostly male attributes. I think focusing on the proper understanding of these will help all of us, including the girls drawn toward the Wiccans, a good picture of who God is. Also, let's accept the fact that there are a few word pictures that God inspired writers to use that take female terms and uses them to open our eyes to who "He" is.

I think that is very nicely said. You won't have any problems from me referring to God as "himself". I use the terms Father, He, Himself all the time. I never use the terms Mother, She, Herself. I think the "blue" is all I'm after -- trying to understand why this is so problematic for some?

 

[PreachTREE]

No, 'God of Breasts' could not be a possible translation.

'El shaddai' means "God Almighty, who is All Sufficient"

'shad' means breast

'shaddai' does not mean breast.

ai is not plural

Ok.

Just to let you know, you would be going against the grain. Many (at least in my circle of education) would have no problem with "God of Breasts" as a possible interpretation.

 

[gekko]

wow peachtree... you really want it to be translated as "God of Breasts" don't ya?

guess i'm insinuating something that the forum rules say not to talk about... hmmm.

 

[mrtumnus]

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Numbers 23:20 Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The image of God is NOT a physical image...rather it is a spiritual image. God does not have a physical image...Jesus Christ was the "express image"of Almighty God. (Hebrews 1:3); He (Jesus Christ) is the "image of the invisible God" (Colossians 1:15). Since God is invisible (a Spirit), He cannot be physical or have physical attributes.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

The image of God is NOT a physical image!

Linda, I am a little confused by this after reading some of your other posts. Do you conclude that the "Spirit" of God is male? Or do you conclude that both male and female are in the image of God (spiritual), and that the Spirit of God is neither male nor female?

 

[Linda64]

Linda, I am a little confused by this after reading some of your other posts. Do you conclude that the "Spirit" of God is male? Or do you conclude that both male and female are in the image of God (spiritual), and that the Spirit of God is neither male nor female?

Male and female (humans) are created in the spiritual image of God. You do understand that man (male and female) is triune, possessing a body, soul, and spirit. God is referred to as "He". We pray to "Our Father" God is not a "what" but a "WHO". He is eternal, self-existent, immutable and HOLY. Our finite minds cannot possibly understand or explain the Infinite God. God is NOT physical with physical attributes.

God doesn't HAVE a spirit, God IS a Spirit.

Psalms 71:19 Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee!

 

[dan e.]

Male and female (humans) are created in the spiritual image of God. You do understand that man (male and female) is triune, possessing a body, soul, and spirit. God is referred to as "He". We pray to "Our Father" God is not a "what" but a "WHO". He is eternal, self-existent, immutable and HOLY. Our finite minds cannot possibly understand or explain the Infinite God. God is NOT physical with physical attributes.

God doesn't HAVE a spirit, God IS a Spirit.

Psalms 71:19 Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee!

but part of the question was if you conclude that God (yes, we acknowledge He is spirit) is male?

 

[mrtumnus]

but part of the question was if you conclude that God (yes, we acknowledge He is spirit) is male?

That's true. I don't disagree with anything Linda said, but she really didn't answer my question.

 

[PreachTREE]

wow peachtree... you really want it to be translated as "God of Breasts" don't ya?

Haha. Obviously this translation would not go well with Western minds. I just hate the mindset of some when they say "if it's not in the KJV then it can't be"

 

[Linda64]

but part of the question was if you conclude that God (yes, we acknowledge He is spirit) is male?

I didn't say that God was male...what I said is this: God is referred to in the male gender, like "Our Father" ... Jesus refered to God as His FATHER. How hard is that to understand?

 

[dan e.]

I didn't say that God was male...what I said is this: God is referred to in the male gender, like "Our Father" ... Jesus refered to God as His FATHER. How hard is that to understand?

It isn't. I agree with you.

You weren't very clear, because SFIC said he thought that God is male. Also, the entire topic is over a few feminine characteristics to describe God as well; that apparrantly you and SFIC disagree that they are being used to describe God, despite the fact they don't mean that God is either gender, or any gender at all!

 

[dan e.]

I just hate the mindset of some when they say "if it's not in the KJV then it can't be"

You mean...it can be?!

 

[Linda64]

That's true. I don't disagree with anything Linda said, but she really didn't answer my question.

I have lost track of your original question because you have deviated so much from the original intent. What do you want to know? God has NO gender. God is NOT physical and therefore has NO physical attributes. However, the proper pronoun by which God is referred is HE. He means MALE, does it not?

I'm done here. Have a nice day!

 

[Linda64]

You mean...it can be?!

This is not a KJV debate....don't make it one.

 

[dan e.]

I have lost track of your original question because you have deviated so much from the original intent. What do you want to know? God has NO gender. God is NOT physical and therefore has NO physical attributes. However, the proper pronoun by which God is referred is HE. He means MALE, does it not?

I'm done here. Have a nice day!

No need to blame because you're getting flustered.

You answered the question! :type:

 

[Danny Hurley]

God is our father, Mother Jerusalem, which is above is our mother as the scripture says the mother of us all.