steaver
Could you show a verse of scripture that teaches it?,,,,no......I did not think so:thumbsup:
Guess you haven't been following the conversation. Pay attention grasshopper! :thumbsup:
Yes that is a good question for you to ponder Steaver. You seem keen on the idea of a free will.....so did lucifer
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
He wanted to act independant of God's will
Good example! :thumbsup: John Calvin wanted to rid the world of anti-Cals...against God's will and Jesus teaching as well.