God Wants to Deliver Us from the Evil Instrumental Music of This Present Evil World

[Scripture More Accurately]

Galatians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: 5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Brethren, Jesus gave Himself for our sins to deliver us from this present evil world according to the will of our Heavenly Father so that our Father would receive all the glory that He deserves.

Take care that you do not allow faulty teaching to lead you astray into accepting the evil instrumental music of this present evil world that the Father wants us to be delivered from for His eternal glory.

 

[Ben1445]

1 Chronicles 25:1-7
Moreover David and the captains of the host separated to the service of the sons of Asaph, and of Heman, and of Jeduthun, who should prophesy with harps, with psalteries, and with cymbals: and the number of the workmen according to their service was:

2 Of the sons of Asaph; Zaccur, and Joseph, and Nethaniah, and Asarelah, the sons of Asaph under the hands of Asaph, which prophesied according to the order of the king.

3 Of Jeduthun: the sons of Jeduthun; Gedaliah, and Zeri, and Jeshaiah, Hashabiah, and Mattithiah, six, under the hands of their father Jeduthun, who prophesied with a harp, to give thanks and to praise the Lord.

4 Of Heman: the sons of Heman: Bukkiah, Mattaniah, Uzziel, Shebuel, and Jerimoth, Hananiah, Hanani, Eliathah, Giddalti, and Romamtiezer, Joshbekashah, Mallothi, Hothir, and Mahazioth:

5 All these were the sons of Heman the king's seer in the words of God, to lift up the horn. And God gave to Heman fourteen sons and three daughters.

6 All these were under the hands of their father for song in the house of the Lord, with cymbals, psalteries, and harps, for the service of the house of God, according to the king's order to Asaph, Jeduthun, and Heman.

7 So the number of them, with their brethren that were instructed in the songs of the Lord, even all that were cunning, was two hundred fourscore and eight.



Surely you are not saying that instruments are bad?
They were instructed for use in the Temple. Asaph is a writer of Psalms.

I’ll give you that not all music qualifies properly as praise to the Lord. But it is not the instrument that matters. The same music sung a cappella would be sanctified? There is no song that is sung a cappella that is not evil?

Maybe I’ve read the emphasis in the wrong place in your post. I hope so.

 

[Ascetic X]

I founded an experimental electronic music band as a teenager. We performed all over NYC during the 1980s. I owned tons of worldly music CDs, tapes, and vinyl.

I had a 3rd spiritual awakening 2 years ago. I got rid of my TV and all movies. I sold my synthesizers.

I was burned out on music. I threw into the garbage all my Str8 Sounds CDs and all worldly music recordings. I deleted 4,000 of my music videos from YouTube.

I still listen to music on Christian radio, but I prefer sermons. Music is an easy way for darkness to invade and overwhelm the soul. Much like brave Ulysses vs. the diabolical spellbinding sirens, luring him to shipwreck on the rocks.

However, this is just me.

I see nothing in the Bible that forbids musical instruments in church. I prefer hymns and don’t like hypnotic praise choruses or contemporary Christian music, aside from a few artists and songs. If it instrumentally sounds similar to secular hard rock, it repulses me generally.

 

[Scarlett O.]

What are you talking about? Are you saying that ANY and all instrumental music is sinful? Please explain.

 

[JonC]

Galatians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: 5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Brethren, Jesus gave Himself for our sins to deliver us from this present evil world according to the will of our Heavenly Father so that our Father would receive all the glory that He deserves.

Take care that you do not allow faulty teaching to lead you astray into accepting the evil instrumental music of this present evil world that the Father wants us to be delivered from for His eternal glory.

I need to point out that the verse you provide has absolutely nothing to do with your statement.

We know that worship music in Scripture was accompanied by stringed instruments, horns, and percussion instruments.

Are you suggesting that we must use those types (those specific instruments) to worship?

Do you mean we must abandon all contemporary music, all traditional hymns, abandon the western style of music and adopt Ancient Near Eastern worship music accompanied by chanting psalms and hymns rather than singing in a Western style?


I am not sure how quickly we could shift from contempory worship and traditional hymns to monophonic chants accompanied by ancient instruments.


I am just not sure what you are advocating.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

Surely you are not saying that instruments are bad?
They were instructed for use in the Temple. Asaph is a writer of Psalms.

I’ll give you that not all music qualifies properly as praise to the Lord. But it is not the instrument that matters. The same music sung a cappella would be sanctified? There is no song that is sung a cappella that is not evil?

Maybe I’ve read the emphasis in the wrong place in your post. I hope so.

No, I am not saying that any and all instruments are bad. The Bible makes clear that is not true.

I agree "that not all music qualifies properly as praise to the Lord."

I do not agree with the view that "it is not the instrument that matters."

This present evil world includes some instruments that are evil instruments, some kinds of instrumental music that are evil kinds of instrumental music, and some instrumental music that is evil instrumental music. God wants to deliver us from all these evil aspects of this present evil world.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

Music is an easy way for darkness to invade and overwhelm the soul. Much like brave Ulysses vs. the diabolical spellbinding sirens, luring him to shipwreck on the rocks.

Evil instrumental music certainly can profoundly have evil, detrimental effects on us.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

What are you talking about? Are you saying that ANY and all instrumental music is sinful? Please explain.

No, I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is that when the Spirit inspired Paul to speak of this present evil world, He had in mind the instrumental music of the world that is evil. There is instrumental music that is evil, and there is instrumental music that is not evil.

 

[Ascetic X]

Evil instrumental music certainly can profoundly have evil, detrimental effects on us.

When are you going to define “evil instrumental music” — or give us examples of it?

Which musical instruments are evil?

Is there also evil vocal music?

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

I need to point out that the verse you provide has absolutely nothing to do with your statement.

This statement is not true. The Spirit does not say that "this present evil world" does not have anything to do with any of the instrumental music of the world.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

When are you going to define “evil instrumental music” — or give us examples of it?

Which musical instruments are evil?

Is there also evil vocal music?

I am interested in hearing about how people reason for whether they believe that there is instrumental music that is evil from which God wants to deliver us.

Of course, there is evil vocal music as well.

 

[JonC]

This statement is not true. The Spirit does not say that "this present evil world" does not have anything to do with any of the instrumental music of the world.

Logical fallacy (one could insert any claim in that statement as it is trying to prove a negative). You could insert acapella singing, western singing rather than monophonic chants, meeting on Wednesday night, using a church building, church bulletins...whatever).

Psalm 150:3 - Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet! Praise him with harp and lyre!

But pagans contemporary to this command from God to use harps and lyres also used the sane instruments. You have, notably, the Lyres of Ur which were used in pagsn worship. Pagans used trumpets, harps and lyres in their pagan rituals to connect with their false gods (demons).

By your standard God is evil for instructing His people to worship Him with instruments that were worldly and used in pagan worship.

 

[Ben1445]

I am interested in hearing about how people reason for whether they believe that there is instrumental music that is evil from which God wants to deliver us.

You will have to give us something better to go on.
If we are talking about “Highway to Hell” and you are talking about “Mary had a Little Lamb,” played on a forbidden instrument, we won’t get anywhere.
What instruments are the evil ones?
Let’s get on the same page before we start a discussion.

 

[Charlie24]

No, I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is that when the Spirit inspired Paul to speak of this present evil world, He had in mind the instrumental music of the world that is evil. There is instrumental music that is evil, and there is instrumental music that is not evil.

I can understand what you're saying by some instruments.

Some whether intentional or not introduce a rock beat to the music.

Our Church only uses a piano and organ, the rock producing instruments are not allowed.

 

[Ascetic X]

I can understand what you're saying by some instruments.

Some whether intentional or not introduce a rock beat to the music.

Our Church only uses a piano and organ, the rock producing instruments are not allowed.

Piano and organ are the original rock instruments. A rock beat can be produced without guitars and drums.

Remember Jerry Lee Lewis? Little Richard? Fats Domino?

Organs and Mellotrons were used extensively by psychedelic rock and prog rock bands in the 1960s and 1970s. Keith Emerson is the most famous prog rock organist and synthesizer player.

The question remains unanswered: which musical instruments can be categorized as “evil”?

 

[Charlie24]

Piano and organ are the original rock instruments. Remember Jerry Lee Lewis? Organs and Mellotrons were used extensively by psychedelic rock and prog rock bands in the 1960s and 1970s.

Not if they're played by the bars in the hymnal book.

Guitars and drums create a rock atmosphere in any case.

 

[Charlie24]

Not if they're played by the bars in the hymnal book.

Guitars and drums create a rock atmosphere in any case.

What I'm saying that musicians express themselves through the instrument.

If no instrument is there the expression is not there that represents the world.

 

[Ascetic X]

What I'm saying that musicians express themselves through the instrument.

If no instrument is there the expression is not there that represents the world.

You think piano and organ do not represent the world? Again, there is much worldly rock music that uses piano and organ.

Did the musical instruments mentioned in Psalms represent the world? Pagans used the same instruments in worship of idols.

John Michael Talbot is a good example of using guitars to make reverent, holy, non-worldly music that can bring hearers closer to God.

 

[Ben1445]

What I'm saying that musicians express themselves through the instrument.

If no instrument is there the expression is not there that represents the world.

In reality, if no person is there to play the instrument, the expression is not there that represents the world.
If you go down to a music store and see a bunch of (yet unidentified) evil instruments, are you standing in the presence of sin? Is the composition of molecules in whatever ever shape sinful?
Are the evil instruments on their way to hell?
I ask the question only because it is the way the discussion has been framed. I’d like to get beyond this, but we will have to get beyond this.

 

[Charlie24]

In reality, if no person is there to play the instrument, the expression is not there that represents the world.
If you go down to a music store and see a bunch of (yet unidentified) evil instruments, are you standing in the presence of sin? Is the composition of molecules in whatever ever shape sinful?
Are the evil instruments on their way to hell?
I ask the question only because it is the way the discussion has been framed. I’d like to get beyond this, but we will have to get beyond this.

Our pastor will not allow the rock beat to enter into our worship service, period.

It doesn't happen overnight, it creeps in and he so to speak, nips it in the bud.

If you like the different instruments then go for it, we will not allow that to become a problem in our Church.