God's Eternal Decree

And about 95% of them are not his own words. It is all cut and paste. Hey Rippon just leave the link.

 

from http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4093/ </font>[/QUOTE]Exactly Helen. Since the fall did not affect our will and our spirit is not really dead we can save ourselves by the simple act of bringing faith from our non-dead spirits and our will which is not really at enmity with God.
</font>[/QUOTE]I am still not sure of the def. of spiritual death and total inability. I still think the proof is not on the calvinist side.

How do you veiw the promise of God the day they ate of the tree of knowedge and evil that they would die? Gen 2:17 This IS clearly spiritual death. Lets see what happened that day. Searching of God (3:8), Interrogation of God (3:11-13), Defense by the Adam and Eve (3:12-13), Promise of Messiah through Eve's seed (3:15), Judgement of God (curse on Serpent, Eve, Adam, ground etc) (3:14-19), Picture of Atonement in the skins for food (3:21), Expulsion from the Garden (3:22-24)

The Biblical Theology of death, or what death is, does not present an event that can be used for the analogy to mean "inability to respond." At death the body does not respond but the person is still intact as the human soul and functional. Eph. 2:1 indicates we are spiritually dead in our trespasses and sins prior to salvation. If you wish to use physical death as the analogy, the analogy would be separation. Exegetically we are dead, or separated in the sphere of trespasses and sins. Inability to respond is a false analogy. Those who acknowledge this like to use the Rom. 1 and Rom. 3:10-18 as indicating the nature of man's depravity is such that they cannot respond to the Gospel. However, while this indicates man's journey away from God, and his desire to have nothing to do with God, it no where states that man has been disabled to the place of spiritual inability. It seems to indicate man has exercised his will not to respond. Thus he is held accountable for not responding (Matt. 23:37-39). The "will not" must be overcome by the wooing of the Spirit of God. However, if man does not respond to God seeking him, he may become like the Pharisees who committed the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and were beyond response by their own doing.

[ March 08, 2006, 04:59 PM: Message edited by: Timtoolman ]

 

In all honesty bjohnson I have not seen it. And the simple fact that most people believe, and biblical so, that God HAS foreknowledge then that makes your above statement rather prideful more then anything else.