God's Word or contains God's Word

[agedman]

Often I have encountered those who would make statements concerning their belief that the Bible is the "Word of God from cover to cover."

Others who are mocked by making the declaration that the Bible contains the Words of God.

What are your thoughts?

I will be bold and briefly give my own thoughts though in no way to be taken as being written in total
1) The Scriptures are the inspired word of God. That is God dictated what was to be recorded.
2) The Scriptures contain both the Word of God as well as the words of angelic messengers, the words of demonic forces, and even the words of the prince of this world, and those of humans.
3) The Scriptures, by God recording the words of all theses sources, becomes self verifiable and reliable

16Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, having been fully equipped toward every good work.​

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So, do the Scriptures contain God's Word and include other's words, or are they only God's word?

Note: this thread is not to be taken in any manner as diminishing the authority, veracity, and reliability of the Word of God as delivered to humankind.

 

[SavedByGrace]

I have been 100% convinced from the day that the Lord saved my soul, way back in Feb 1982, and have never changed on this. That, in the Original Autographs, of the 66 Books of the so called Protestant Canon, that they very Words were Dictated by God the Holy Spirit, Who "moved the Writers" to write down, HIS Words.

2 Timothy 3:16 reads, "πᾶσα γραφὴ θεόπνευστος", where I would naturally translate the Greek as, "every single Scripture is God-Breathed". There is not a single word, that is in the Bible, that is not "Inspired" by God the Holy Spirit, and has its use, as God's Infallible and Inerrent Word.

The Revised version of 1881, has corrupted the force and meaning if these words, when they render them as, "Every scripture inspired of God". This suggests that there are some "Scriptures", that are not "Inspired" by the Holy Spirit. This view is usually what the "Liberals" in the Church, hold to, which is 100% WRONG!

2 Peter 2:21 says, "For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit". Here the Greek verb, "φερόμενοι", is in the passive. The Reformed commentary by John Trapp, is 100% right in saying, "As they were moved] φερομενοι. Forcibly moved, acted, carried out of themselves to say and do what God would have them". Clearly shows that the Writers of the 66 Books, were INSTRUMENTS of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Bible is THE Word of God, and not the word of God/man!

There is NO other "book" in the entire world, that can ever be "equal" to the Holy Bible. As This Book ALONE, is THE Word of Almighty God, to the human race. ALL others are DEMONIC!

 

[1689Dave]

Often I have encountered those who would make statements concerning their belief that the Bible is the "Word of God from cover to cover."

Others who are mocked by making the declaration that the Bible contains the Words of God.

What are your thoughts?

I will be bold and briefly give my own thoughts though in no way to be taken as being written in total
1) The Scriptures are the inspired word of God. That is God dictated what was to be recorded.
2) The Scriptures contain both the Word of God as well as the words of angelic messengers, the words of demonic forces, and even the words of the prince of this world, and those of humans.
3) The Scriptures, by God recording the words of all theses sources, becomes self verifiable and reliable

16Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, having been fully equipped toward every good work.​

...

So, do the Scriptures contain God's Word and include other's words, or are they only God's word?

Note: this thread is not to be taken in any manner as diminishing the authority, veracity, and reliability of the Word of God as delivered to humankind.

I think all of the 66 books are God's word. But the OT, often colored by the human understanding of the writer was made clear by the NT. That is, the human writer would see God as repenting whereas the NT writer would see predestination of some events as though God was repenting.

 

[37818]

At the giving of the original autographes which were copied and handed down to us, to this day, where when they where given by God through His prophets His words and their words per His words. They are still God's written words. Psalms 119:89, "For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven."

 

[agedman]

Perhaps an example will help.

Do the Scriptures ever declare that God cannot look upon sin?

Yes.

But that statement did not come from God, but came from unrighteous thinking that God would never allow a more sinful bunch to overthrow those He claimed as His children.

So are those words God’s words, or did God dictate the account to be written down to show the veracity and reliability of the Scriptures?

Is all Scripture God’s own words or God recording accurately both His Words and the words of others?

Is there another choice not yet given?

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

It would seem obvious that the Bible being Scripture inspired by God, does not imply that the words of others are not included within, as such obviously are included.

However, the Bible gives God's view, aka the right view, concerning all matters. This in turn does not imply that everyone will correctly understand everything written.

 

[37818]

Do the Scriptures ever declare that God cannot look upon sin?

Yes.

God is omnipresent. He cannot not look upon sin. But He told Isaiah, in Isaiah 59:2, ". . . your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. . . ." And had promised in Isaiah 53:6, ". . . and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. . . ." Which would not be done if He did not see it.

 

[agedman]

God is omnipresent. He cannot not look upon sin. But He told Isaiah, in Isaiah 59:2, ". . . your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. . . ." And had promised in Isaiah 53:6, ". . . and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. . . ." Which would not be done if He did not see it.

I disagree, did not God look upon the whole world of sinners and choose Abraham, Noah, Jonah, David, and even a sinner like me?

Does not the Scripture state that the very prince of darkness stood before God and had a conversation concerning a man named Job?

Perhaps placing Isaiah into the context that God does look upon sin or sinners will give more accurate testimony of the statements from that book. Nothing escapes God’s attention (eye).