Going by.."What is Written"

[Zaatar71]

Some posters make such claims that they are only going by..."what is Written in scripture"
They then claim that all other "men", pastors, professors do not go by What is Written! Only they have a direct understanding of what is written.
They seek to dismiss truth claims and theology as just the words of men. Here is such a quote!
The question is. Is this valid? he can post it, but does it hold up to scrutiny? In other words,
Can we teach the bible teaches a trinity, unless we find a text somewhere that writes that very word, Trinity? Do all sermons preached from Pulpits only be Bible readings? If a God called Pastor or preacher offers to give the sense of scripture, is that valid, or can we only believe what some of these type of posters offer?
What do you say?

{ God has shown me
The difference between our views is that I believ we are to leamonot on our understanding but on every word from God, and I believe God's Word is perfect and complete]

and again, he posts that he has the truth of God, and others do not right here;

What you should have done was test the spirit that gave you that special revelation. Had you done so you would have read the verse and discerned the spirit influencing you (giving you that special revelation) was not of God because it led you away from God's Word (caused you to add to Scripture and change the meaning).

 

[Zaatar71]

Here is how this is posted; The poster claims he is right and others are wrong. Then he makes a statement that Scripture is perfect and inspired, as if other Christians somehow doubt that???

Try reading the Bible without using the theory. What is actually written in God's Word is complete and makes sence. All Penal Substitution Theory does is offer a theory which os different from Scripture and different from traditional Chriatianity.

I can say your theory is unbiblical because it is foreign to the actual text of Scripture.

You cannot say my position is unbiblical because it is what is written in Scripture.

The Spirit guides those of us who believe and opens up Scripture - not bia exposition but by a realization Scripture itself makes sence. Even though interpretations differ we rely on God's Word (different focuses and interpretations of some verses).

Again we see such statements; Those who see PSA. in scripture take God's word as complete and accurate!

The problem, of course, is the teachings of Penal Substitution stands in opposition to what is actually written in the Bible (if you take God's Word as complete and accurate).

This would be another attempt to discredit actual biblical exposition and scholarship.

 

[Deacon]

Scripture isn't always as plain as we'd like it to be.
There have been countless believers before us that have pondered the pages of God's word (most of them smarter and wiser than me). Reading what they have written opens doors to understanding.
I avail myself to reading as much as I can in order to tighten my grasp on what the Scriptures teach about God.

This includes a variety of versions, commentaries, inspirational material, and fiction (Christian and non-Christian).
Even those who don't know God's word can at times echo his truths, for aspects of God’s nature are evident in the world around us (Romans 1:20).

Why even the Apostle Paul availed himself to studying books (2 Timothy 4:13); Paul quoted prominent pagan philosophers of his time; Jude quoted extra-biblical sources.

Isaac Newton, one of the most influential scientists ever, humbly wrote,
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants".

Too many people use a WSM method of Bible study (Whatever Strikes Me).
The WSM method uses the Bible as a devotional.
It's one way of using Scripture but it can sometimes lead one into wildly imaginative (and inaccurate) interpretations of Scripture.

IMO, those who say we should only use Scripture are acting haughtly and have deceived themselves.

Rob

 

[Zaatar71]

Scripture isn't always as plain as we'd like it to be.
There have been countless believers before us that have pondered the pages of God's word (most of them smarter and wiser than me). Reading what they have written opens doors to understanding.
I avail myself to reading as much as I can in order to tighten my grasp on what the Scriptures teach about God.

Yes, this is exactly what most people do who are searching out the meaning of scripture, like those described in Acts 17:9

This includes a variety of versions, commentaries, inspirational material, and fiction (Christian and non-Christian).

ok

Even those who don't know God's word can at times echo his truths, for aspects of God’s nature are evident in the world around us (Romans 1:20).

yes, good point!

Why even the Apostle Paul availed himself to studying books (2 Timothy 4:13); Paul quoted prominent pagan philosophers of his time; Jude quoted extra-biblical sources.

Yes he did!

Isaac Newton, one of the most influential scientists ever, humbly wrote,
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants".

Too many people use a WSM method of Bible study (Whatever Strikes Me).
The WSM method uses the Bible as a devotional.

Yes, then if someone disagrees there is no reason to question if English was their second language, lol

It's one way of using Scripture but it can sometimes lead one into wildly imaginative (and inaccurate) interpretations of Scripture.

Yes, this is also a good and fair caution that is proper to offer!

IMO, those who say we should only use Scripture are acting haughtly and have deceived themselves.

Yes. sadly we have all seen those who take this unfortunate position and then compound it by saying they never read the writings of men!

Rob

Thanks for this helpful post!

 

[Zaatar71]

Deacon's post highlights that those who despise Godly teachers that God has provided to the church, by default are living upon themselves, and they lean on their own understanding, rather than what God has designed for believers.
Ironically they violate the very thing that they say others do;
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Instead, they make their own path, their own rabbit trail and depart from mainstream Christians.

 

[Silverhair]

Deacon's post highlights that those who despise Godly teachers that God has provided to the church, by default are living upon themselves, and they lean on their own understanding, rather than what God has designed for believers.
Ironically they violate the very thing that they say others do;
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Instead, they make their own path, their own rabbit trail and depart from mainstream Christians.

That has been an on going problem when people trust in false teachings and fanciful interpretations by redefining the meaning of words and texts to fit a predetermined philosophical view.

 

[Zaatar71]

That has been an on going problem when people trust in false teachings and fanciful interpretations by redefining the meaning of words and texts to fit a predetermined philosophical view.

Yes. People have tried to redefine the doctrines of grace, but have come up short.