going to church 3 times a week

[Amy.G]

Matthew 12
9 Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue. 10 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?"--that they might accuse Him.
11 Then He said to them, "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath." 13 Then He said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other. 14 Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.

I think Jesus would have gone to the hospital.

 

[tinytim]

How many others would say I am wrong?

It doesn't matter.. Jesus sent me... I knew I was to be there to pray and be with the family.... (Oh other church members showed up too to show their concern)

 

[tinytim]

Matthew 12
9 Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue. 10 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?"--that they might accuse Him.
11 Then He said to them, "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath." 13 Then He said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other. 14 Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.

I think Jesus would have gone to the hospital.

I know he would have!
He was there with me...

 

[saturneptune]

It shows what is in a legalist's heart... darkness, and uncaring

Tim, really, I dont think anyone has taken His Blood Spoke My Name seriously in quite a while. The theology is really off the mark.

 

[Amy.G]

I know he would have!
He was there with me...

You did good, Tim.

 

[dan e.]

As I said, if time permitted before service to visit, I would encourage it, I might even go myself.

But I will not abandon the pulpit to visit someone. I would send a deacon out and tell him to get back as soon as possible.


I am not the only pastor who will not abandon the flock, I know many who would not leave the flock on a service time.

And the 99 and 1 illustration does not apply. That story is illustrating one who is lost, not hurt and being tended to by someone else.

and there is nothing callous about staying in the Sanctuary and leading the flock while others tend to the wounded.

I think it is time for you to stop PASTOR. I would hesitate to say this to some....but you are part of the problem with the church in America.

If what you have described is true...then you have issues with understanding a pastor. I don't care what your resume is....the fact that you would make statements like you've just made shows your misunderstanding. Unfortunately....this is a common attitude in our society.

time for you to STOP.

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

Matthew 12
9 Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue. 10 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?"--that they might accuse Him.
11 Then He said to them, "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath." 13 Then He said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other. 14 Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.

I think Jesus would have gone to the hospital.

Since the Word of God says Jesus kept the law in every point, that means He even went to the temple on the Sabbath day... as a matter of fact He even taught there on occasion.

Just because He healed on the Sabbath day does not mean He did not attend the Sabbath services.

Your passage you quoted does not excuse a pastor from preaching.

My, my! The excuses people will give to justify missing Church... and use Scripture out of context to do it. Sad

 

[saturneptune]

Sad

Nice autobiography.

 

[tinytim]

Tim, really, I dont think anyone has taken His Blood Spoke My Name seriously in quite a while. The theology is really off the mark.

I know others don't.. but I have.. until now...
I know he is a fundy.. and the uncaring sect of fundies are the reason I left them. I am not saying all fundies are like this... but if you look at this thread the ones that are the legalists are fundies

That speaks volumes of where the fundies movement is heading...

I know not all fundies are like this... but where are they.. are they going to let these legalists demonstrate what fundies are like...

Do the legalists on this thread represent today's fundamentalism?
I hope not...

 

[tinytim]

Since the Word of God says Jesus kept the law in every point, that means He even went to the temple on the Sabbath day... as a matter of fact He even taught there on occasion.

Just because He healed on the Sabbath day does not mean He did not attend the Sabbath services.

Your passage you quoted does not excuse a pastor from preaching.

My, my! The excuses people will give to justify missing Church... and use Scripture out of context to do it. Sad

Then follow his example and become a SDA...
you would fit right in with your works based, legalistic, whacked up, theology...

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

What I stand on is Biblical doctrine. Not taken out of context as I have seen many do to justify not being in Church.

If preaching the Word makes me a legalist, then I gladly will wear the title.

I seek not to please man, but God.

 

[tinytim]

You know I was thinking that since there were 5 other members of our church at the ER with me tonight... I was at church... tonight our church had a satellite campus in the ER room...
Where 2 or 3 are gathered....

On our main campus, my assistant teacher was teaching, TeamKID was going on, and at our temporary satellite campus, I was ministering to other members....

So take that and smoke it!

 

[Amy.G]

Mark 7
9 He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.' 11 But you say, 'If a man says to his father or mother, "Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban"--' (that is, a gift to God), 12 then you no longer let him do anything for his father or his mother, 13 making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do."
According to the Pharisees it was excusable to let your parents go without as long as you gave your gift to God. But, Jesus said this was obeying man instead of God.
Not tending to a church member in a crisis because you believe you are serving God better by being in church is following man's tradition instead of the command of God.

HBSMN, you are trying to obey the letter of the law while ingnoring the spirit of it.

 

[Amy.G]

Jesus is attending Sabbath services when someone bursts in the door and says "Lord one of your disciples has been seriously injured and he's calling for You! Come quickly!
Jesus says "tell him he'll have to wait. I am serving God right now."

NOT!

 

[rbell]

The pastor's duty is to study the Word so he can feed the flock that he is responsible for.

Deacon's were appointed to do the visitation.

You let down the rest of the flock so you could do the work a deacon is supposed to do?

No, I would not have done the same thing. As a matter of fact, I have sent deacons to the hospital when emergencies arose.

And no, I am not advocating deacons missing church either. It does not take hours to pray for someone. I daresay if the accident happened before services, you or the deacon could have gone and prayed for the child and then gone back to church... had you truly wanted to be at church.

What a condescending post. Shame on you. This is low, even for HBSMN.

God Bless you Tim. As rough as it gets, you see what kind of folk could be in your membership.

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

No, I am obeying God's Word that says not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together...

Unfortunately, it is those with liberal views who disregard that and claim I am legalistic because I preach the truth.

 

[rbell]

My, my! The excuses people will give to justify missing Church... and use Scripture out of context to do it. Sad

Hey, I remember you...you played the part of the Priest in the "Good Samaritan" story.

 

[tinytim]

No, I am obeying God's Word that says not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together...

Unfortunately, it is those with liberal views who disregard that and claim I am legalistic because I preach the truth.

You are not preaching the truth on here tonight.. you are being phariseeical... come on you are better than that.

 

[tinytim]

What a condescending post. Shame on you. This is low, even for HBSMN.

God Bless you Tim. As rough as it gets, you see what kind of folk could be in your membership.

Yeah, not caring for others deserves church discipline, more than missing church.

 

[bapmom]

Brother Tim! Im so sorry I wasn't here earlier! Honestly, I was in church..........heeheehee..........

However! HBSMN......Pastor Tim was not "using an excuse to get out of church", he was tending to one of his congregation who was in serious need! It's not like he skipped to watch a football game, or went to a friend's house to hang out. There was a serious emergency, and just as Amy G. so aptly quoted, it was the Pharisees who got all het up over Jesus doing good works on the Sabbath day! Pastor Tim is a dedicated pastor, who has a real, true-to-life love for his people. It shows in his website, and in many of his postings here on the BB.

The Sabbath was created for men, not men for the Sabbath. Your viewpoints are not "fundie" mentality. Much of what you say Ive never seen anywhere else, and Im quite active in fundamentalist circles.

There is a HUGE difference between forsaking church and having an emergency which requires you to be elsewhere during ONE service. It is EXTREME Phariseeism which would require a person to be at each and every service, without regarding what is going on in that person's life. We aren't talking about missing church because of a little sniffle, or missing because your VCR is broken and your favorite show is having it's season finale.

HBSMN, you've got to get some perspective - otherwise you'll be running off the 84 people in your church.