Gone With The Wind

[Scarlett O.]

I had rape, but not abomination. The scene where drunk Rhett grabs Scarlett and carries her up the staircase to the bedroom is considered marital rape by many. (Get ready to hear there is no such thing from the usual "experts" here.)

What is the abomination scene? (By abomination I mean an abomination to God.)

Well, I was thinking of the abomination list in Proverbs 6.

lying
feet running to mischief
creating strife amongst people

Those three were Scarlett O'Hara alone! LOL.

 

[JonC]

Well, I was thinking of the abomination list in Proverbs 6.

lying
feet running to mischief
creating strife amongst people

Those three were Scarlett O'Hara alone! LOL.

You know that I"m biting my tongue because of your screen name....right....

 

[Scarlett O.]

Why glorify slavery on screen?

Be gone!

There is an issue with the film, but it isn't the "glorification" of slavery.

I am and was always uncomfortable with the slave scenes. Why? Not because slavery was uplifted in the film because it wasn't. Those scenes made me uncomfortable because the slaves were portrayed exactly as stereotypically as Harriet Beecher Stowe created them to be in her novel, Uncle Tom's Cabin.

If we want to be truthful, Stowe was the woman who created those stereotypes which infiltrated their way into minstrel shows and early films.

I haven't watched the film in years and got burnt out with it a long time ago. But slavery was not exalted - the wrong in the film was the gross stereotypes of black people.

 

[Scarlett O.]

You know that I"m biting my tongue because of your screen name....right....

Yes, so am I!!!!! LOL!!

I made this my screen name because in 2002 I was on a GWTW kick! We read excerpts from it in my literature class. I haven't seen the film in a long time.

 

[Yeshua1]

Gone with the Wind has been taken off HBO Max following calls for it to be removed from the US streaming service.

HBO Max said the 1939 film was "a product of its time" and depicted "ethnic and racial prejudices" that "were wrong then and are wrong today".

It said the film would return to the platform at an unspecified date with a "discussion of its historical context".

Set during and after the American Civil War, Gone with the Wind has long been attacked for its depiction of slavery.

Based on the novel by Margaret Mitchell, it features slave characters who seem contented with their lot and who remain loyal to their former owners after slavery's abolition.

Gone with the Wind received 10 Oscars and remains the highest-grossing movie of all time when its takings are adjusted for inflation.

Hattie McDaniel became the first black actress to be nominated for, and win, an Academy Award for her role as domestic servant Mammy.

Writing in the Los Angeles Times this week, screenwriter John Ridley said the film "glorifies the antebellum south" and perpetuated "painful stereotypes of people of colour".

"The movie had the very best talents in Hollywood at that time working together to sentimentalise a history that never was," continued the Oscar-winning screenwriter of 12 Years A Slave.




Gone with the Wind removed from HBO Max

So much for liberals mantra of "free thought and free speech!"

 

[Yeshua1]

The past cannot be erased. How long until this goes beyond tearing down statues and the “canceling” of people becomes potentially lethal?

Christopher Columbus statue is beheaded in Boston

Vandals pull down Columbus statue in Richmond, throw it in lake

Paul Krugman, professors seek top economist's removal from influential job for criticizing Black Lives Matter

Will when that racist and genocider Margaret Singer get called out by the liberals dems and media?

 

[Yeshua1]

Why glorify slavery on screen?

Be gone!

agreed, get rid of Roots while at it!

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I had rape, but not abomination. The scene where drunk Rhett grabs Scarlett and carries her up the staircase to the bedroom is considered marital rape by many. (Get ready to hear there is no such thing from the usual "experts" here.)

But it certainly wasn't to Scarlett. (I mean the movie character, not our resident SO.)

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

agreed, get rid of Roots while at it!

How about calling out Coming to America for its depiction of slavery?

 

[Yeshua1]

How about calling out Coming to America for its depiction of slavery?

And do not let the Godfather, Sopranos on Hbo Max, as shows all Italians off in a bad light!

 

[Scarlett O.]

But it certainly wasn't to Scarlett. (I mean the movie character, not our resident SO.)

True, they were feuding and fussing and REALLY angry at each other, but the scene following his carrying her up the stairs with her beating on his shoulders is her lying in bed the next morning grinning like a Cheshire cat.

My mother used to complain about that scene as she said it implied definitely too much!!!

[Not discounting the realness of marital rape, but just saying this wasn't an example]

 

[InTheLight]

I haven't seen the film in a long time.

I've seen it three times, most recently a year ago, I think it was, when TCM had it on for the 60th anniversary.

 

[InTheLight]

But it certainly wasn't to Scarlett. (I mean the movie character, not our resident SO.)

Right. But there were a lot of things done in the 1860's that have been reexamined in the 21st century and found wanting.

I really think this sort of scene--two people in love are yelling at each other in furious anger and then end up in each other's clutches--is a well worn movie trope. I seriously wonder if it happens in real life.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

True, they were feuding and fussing and REALLY angry at each other, but the scene following his carrying her up the stairs with her beating on his shoulders is her lying in bed the next morning grinning like a Cheshire cat.

My mother used to complain about that scene as she said it implied definitely too much!!!

[Not discounting the realness of marital rape, but just saying this wasn't an example]

I never heard anyone else make a single comment about it till now. And it was always the women, seemed like all of them, who loved the film so much. The men, quite frankly, had more of a Rhett attitude.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Right. But there were a lot of things done in the 1860's that have been reexamined in the 21st century and found wanting.

I really think this sort of scene--two people in love are yelling at each other in furious anger and then end up in each other's clutches--is a well worn movie trope. I seriously wonder if it happens in real life.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I don't think it's realistic and it's unfortunate that it's a basic to most "romance" novels which I despise. I know you men do not read romance novels and many of us women do not or else gave them up a long time ago, but the depiction of men and women is not normal.

 

[Scarlett O.]

I wholeheartedly agree.

I don't think it's realistic and it's unfortunate that it's a basic to most "romance" novels which I despise. I know you men do not read romance novels and many of us women do not or else gave them up a long time ago, but the depiction of men and women is not normal.

 

[church mouse guy]

I read the novel twice about 1956 or 57. I have seen the movie a half a dozen times.

The novel is a potboiler and I agree with those who say it is a gothic romance of sorts. As a Yankee, I always read it as see what the plantation owners did to themselves by not listening to common sense. They went from riches to rags. I never thought that the novel was racist but just historical fiction.

Lincoln liked the tune Dixie when the war ended.

HBO is owned by AT&T I think. HBO sucks. They are not going to say anything about slavery in Islam today or widespread white slavery in America today.

 

[robycop3]

No matter who likes it or who doesn't, THOSE THINGS HAPPENED ! There WAS an antebellum south (and North), there WAS slavery, there WERE slaves who remained loyal to their former owners, as they knew no other life & had nowhere else to go, & there WERE CSA generals who fought honorably. (And some, DIShonorably, on both sides.) Those FACTS should be kept in front of people, & youngsters should be allowed to form their own opinions of them.

I mean, shoot, "barbarians" existed, the ancient Israelis wiped out whole cities, etc. etc. But nobody hollers about those things.

While Trump & Co. are far-from-perfect, they're light-years better than the "Progressives"(a new term for Neo-Commies) & the New-Age-Liberals.

 

[carpro]

How long will "later" be. And why now? Are they trying to be PC during this time
of honoring a man who is a multi-convicted felon?

"Later" will be after they have developed a "tutorial" to be shown with the movie that tells us how we are to interpret what we are seeing. I suspect there will be some selective editing to protect us from evil, as well.

 

[InTheLight]

‘Gone With the Wind’ Hits No. 1 on Amazon Best-Sellers Chart After HBO Max Drops Movie

"Gone With the Wind" zipped to the top of Amazon’s best-sellers sales chart for TV and movies, a day after Warner Media’s HBO Max pulled the movie for “racist depictions.”

Amazon bases its rankings on sales data. The site currently offers the 70th anniversary two-disc DVD edition of “Gone With the Wind” starting at $29.55, while Amazon Video offers the movie as a digital HD rental at $3.99 and for purchase at $9.99.

‘Gone With the Wind’ Hits No. 1 on Amazon Best-Sellers Chart After HBO Max Drops Movie – Variety