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Good-bye, Sweden?

church mouse guy

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Sweden is being overwhelmed by Islamic "refugees" and yet the politically correct government is not prosecuting the malefactors in a national crime wave but those who complain about the crime. Malmo is so out of control that the police there have had to be armed with machine guns. An election in September may decide if Sweden, which may have the head of ISIS hiding there, will survive as a nation or become an Islamic republic. The welfare burden is so heavy that the age of retirement had to be raised to pay for the huge numbers of people drawing welfare.

 

HankD

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Not just Sweden but any country falling for "political correctness" will be conquered.

"Political Correctness" is a philosophical Trojan Horse with a tyrannical force hidden within.

America - get rid of the PC stooges - 2018, 2020 is our last opportunity.
 

church mouse guy

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Hank, they say that Spain may be the only country to overthrow Islam on their own and escape that savagery that has murdered an estimated 270 million people in the last 1.300 years, a savagery that still practices slavery today. Actually, as you know, all of Europe is under threat except states such as Hungary that has stood up to the EU and marauders such George Soros, who seeks to overthrow the Hungarian government of Victor Orban. Hopefully, Germany will be able to retire Merkel, who is the author of much of the disaster in Europe. The idea of an United States of Europe belongs in the garbage.
 

Saved-By-Grace

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I firmly believe that every "christian" nation that has departed from the Lord, which is all of them, is under the Lord's Righteous Judgement with a huge rise in the demonic religion called islam. If one were to read of the Jews in the Old Testament in the Prophets, you will see time and again how the Lord Judged them by allowing other nations, who were haters of Him and His Word, and Ways, to rule over them for many years. We see a very long, 400 year captivity in Egypt, and many such others. Today, nations like the UK and USA, once champions for the Lord and His Gospel, have through one compromise after another, become worse than the ungodly that live in them.
 

thatbrian

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Sweden is gone. Canada is well on its way. The US is not far behind it.

I can see no way to reverse it. The horse is out of the barn. This world is doomed, but for Christ.
 

FollowTheWay

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I firmly believe that every "christian" nation that has departed from the Lord, which is all of them, is under the Lord's Righteous Judgement with a huge rise in the demonic religion called islam. If one were to read of the Jews in the Old Testament in the Prophets, you will see time and again how the Lord Judged them by allowing other nations, who were haters of Him and His Word, and Ways, to rule over them for many years. We see a very long, 400 year captivity in Egypt, and many such others. Today, nations like the UK and USA, once champions for the Lord and His Gospel, have through one compromise after another, become worse than the ungodly that live in them.
Where do you find Biblical support for calling any nation a "Christian Nation?" israel used to be God's favored nation but they turned their back on Him. No country is designated as or prophesied to become a "Christian Nation" in my understanding of scripture. Maybe you canshed some light on this for me with chapter/verse.
 
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HankD

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Where do you find Biblical support for calling any nation a "Christian Nation?" israel used to be God's favored nation but they turned their back on Him. No country is designated as or prophesied to become a "Christian Nation" in my understanding of scripture. Maybe you canshed some light on this for me with chapter/verse.
Biblically - no of course America cannot be found (unless it is "the isles") in the Bible.

Historically and in current events (which by the way determines world wars) most Americans have their heads firmly implanted in the ground.

It is a matter of PERCEPTION:
The 1797 Treaty of Tripoli was one of several negotiated with during the “Barbary Powers War,” a war against Muslim terrorists that began toward the end of the Revolutionary War and continued through the Presidencies of George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison. 1 During America’s original “War on Terror,” five Muslim countries (Tunis, Morocco, Algiers, Tripoli, and Turkey) were making indiscriminate terrorist attacks against what they claimed to be five “Christian” nations (England, France, Spain, Denmark, and the United States). The conflict so escalated that in 1801, Tripoli formally declared war against the United States, 2 thus constituting America’s first official war as an established independent nation.

Treaty of Tripoli - WallBuilders

This animosity continues to this day and according to Islam Jihadists - America was then and still is a Christian nation.

Don't believe it - be in Times Square NY at Christmas time.
 

FollowTheWay

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Biblically - no of course America cannot be found (unless it is "the isles") in the Bible.

Historically and in current events (which by the way determines world wars) most Americans have their heads firmly implanted in the ground.

It is a matter of PERCEPTION:


Treaty of Tripoli - WallBuilders

This animosity continues to this day and according to Islam Jihadists - America was then and still is a Christian nation.

Don't believe it - be in Times Square NY at Christmas time.
Actually, 5th Ave is a better example. I did that every year for 30 years. That proves that the businesses there think they can draw more customers by decorating their windows at Christmas. I love it and also the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree but that says nothing about this being a Christian nation. How do you define a Christian nation? My definition in worldly terms would be a nation supporting one faith is one which declares it to be one in its law like England used to do under the Anglican Church and Iran and Iraq under Islam.
The First Amendment declares America to have religious freedom, meaning that everyone's faith is allowable under the law. It doesn't say that only the Christian faith is recognized.
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Freedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance without government influence or intervention. It also includes the freedom to change one's religion or belief.[1]

Freedom of religion is considered by many people and most of the nations to be a fundamental human right.[2][3] In a country with a state religion, freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion, and does not persecute believers in other faiths. Freedom of belief is different. It allows the right to believe what a person, group or religion wishes, but it does not necessarily allow the right to practice the religion or belief openly and outwardly in a public manner.
Freedom of religion - Wikipedia
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In India, a Hindu converting to Christianity is considered an "untouchable" and his life might be in danger. You can make a similar statement about China, Iran, etc. This is not true legally for a Christian converting to Islam in America although the reality is those who do not accept the Constitution might take it upon themselves to persecute that person. Most often this is the Religious Right.

God looks at the hearts of individuals and does not judge entire nations under the Covenant of Grace.
 

HankD

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Actually, 5th Ave is a better example. I did that every year for 30 years. That proves that the businesses there think they can draw more customers by decorating their windows at Christmas. I love it and also the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree but that says nothing about this being a Christian nation. How do you define a Christian nation? My definition in worldly terms would be a nation supporting one faith is one which declares it to be one in its law like England used to do under the Anglican Church and Iran and Iraq under Islam.
The First Amendment declares America to have religious freedom, meaning that everyone's faith is allowable under the law. It doesn't say that only the Christian faith is recognized.
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Freedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance without government influence or intervention. It also includes the freedom to change one's religion or belief.[1]

Freedom of religion is considered by many people and most of the nations to be a fundamental human right.[2][3] In a country with a state religion, freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion, and does not persecute believers in other faiths. Freedom of belief is different. It allows the right to believe what a person, group or religion wishes, but it does not necessarily allow the right to practice the religion or belief openly and outwardly in a public manner.
Freedom of religion - Wikipedia
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In India, a Hindu converting to Christianity is considered an "untouchable" and his life might be in danger. You can make a similar statement about China, Iran, etc. This is not true legally for a Christian converting to Islam in America although the reality is those who do not accept the Constitution might take it upon themselves to persecute that person. Most often this is the Religious Right.

God looks at the hearts of individuals and does not judge entire nations under the Covenant of Grace.
Again when it comes to having your head chopped off or not its not what I find in the scripture as to America's status on a religious basis in the eyes of those of the religion of peace.

You eat pork and you celebrate Christmas - Off with their heads!

And yes, I also like even the economic celebration of Christmas (on a limited basis).

It does give a gateway into a discussion concerning the true meaning of what is "celebrated" concerning the Incarnation.
 
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Gold Dragon

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The new testament letters/books were written to a body of believers that were a persecuted minority in their culture. So the fewer Christians there are in our countries and the more opposition we get from our secular cultures, the more the New Testament teachings can directly apply to our situation.

Verses like Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

It is easy to do when the government agrees with your view but not so easy when it actively opposes you like in Paul's day.
 

church mouse guy

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It probably is not safe to vacation in Sweden, as Malmo is rhought to be the rape capital of the world--even worse than the God-forsaken South Africa.
 

David Kent

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Biblically - no of course America cannot be found (unless it is "the isles") in the Bible.

The isles in Esther must refer to the Greek Isles.

  • Esther 10:1 And the king Ahasuerus laid a tribute upon the land, and upon the isles of the sea.
Ahasuerus (Darius) was the king who laid tribute on the isles. The sea must be the Mediterranean.
 

HankD

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The isles in Esther must refer to the Greek Isles.

  • Esther 10:1 And the king Ahasuerus laid a tribute upon the land, and upon the isles of the sea.
Ahasuerus (Darius) was the king who laid tribute on the isles. The sea must be the Mediterranean.
The "Isles" may possibly be a generic phrase as it is in English.

The British Isles perhaps which would include the American Colonies of the Crown.

It's possible.
 

David Kent

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Herodotus said there were tin islands beyond the Pillars of Heracles. He said he didn't believe in the existence of these islands but he supposed "Our tin must come from somewhere."

That probably referred to the British Isles as there were many tin (and lead) mines in the county of Cornwall.
 
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