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Of course, silly! </font>Originally posted by Matt Black:
Hmmm...can anyone answer me the following question: why might it be OK for the US to launch a nuclear strike against Iran but not OK for Iran to launch a nuclear strike against the US?
Whether Iraq was right or wrong... the erosion of Bush's credibility by politically opportunistic liberals and Demcrats leaves us in a precarious place with Iran.Originally posted by rbell:
I'm conflicted on this.
On one hand, right--there is no way that we could sustain another military effort...especially in a country twice the size of Iraq. It would be a foolish effort.
On the other hand, this president of Iran is scary crazy. He has outright said he will use nuclear weapons on Israel. (source) I can't help but think that when Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf" folks just thought it was a madman's ravings...then he went and did it. Is this nutcase the same? Who knows...
I guess my question is...are these plans to bomb Iran just contingencies, or a done deal?
Clue to the obviously clueless... Someone already started a worldwide guerilla war against Americans.Originally posted by ASLANSPAL:
If bush does use a daisycutter to the 10th power will he start a world wide guerilla war against
Americans at home and abroad?????
Of course, silly!Originally posted by Daisy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Matt Black:
Hmmm...can anyone answer me the following question: why might it be OK for the US to launch a nuclear strike against Iran but not OK for Iran to launch a nuclear strike against the US?
No. We are the guys trying to stand for good. Now in the liberal mind perhaps there are no black-white/good-bad standards. But both biblically and experentially, there are.[*]We are the good guys
True enough... but whereas our belief in God demands that we allow freedom of conscience and life to even those who disagree with us... the Muslim conviction that they worship the real God makes no such accommodation.[*]We worship the real God
If that were the operating principle... we wouldn't have waited this long to act on Iraq or Iran... or N Korea or several other thorns in our side.[*]Might makes right
That's an interesting thing to say... since I am aware of no conservative or fundamentalist who has ever said it. So basically you are putting words in the mouths of your opposition... the same thing as lying.[*]God loves us best or He wouldn't have given us nukes
I don't think you are judging from the things in this list.[*]Do you think you're smarter than Bush? (wait, don't answer that one)
This is possibly the only true thing you've said. Isolationism worked moderately well when the world was larger and the weapons had much less destructive power.[*]We need to get them before they get us, waaay before they are even capable of getting us
What they believe, preach, and do is evil...[*]They're part of the Axis of Evil and we're not
True. And the difference between the American design and the fascist design is that individuals are afforded rights and liberties... even if they use them to say things contrary to the protection of those rights and liberties against fascists.[*]They're a bunch of islamofascists and we're not
[*]They have some very pretty oil reserves which we deserve to control
Are you saying they don't? And why do they hate us?[*]They hate us
That... is the understatement of the century.I'm sure there are a lot more reasons I haven't thought of yet.
Clue to the obviously clueless... Someone already started a worldwide guerilla war against Americans.Originally posted by Scott J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ASLANSPAL:
If bush does use a daisycutter to the 10th power will he start a world wide guerilla war against
Americans at home and abroad?????
Clue to the obviously clueless... Someone already started a worldwide guerilla war against Americans.Originally posted by Scott J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ASLANSPAL:
If bush does use a daisycutter to the 10th power will he start a world wide guerilla war against
Americans at home and abroad?????
Yes. Just like Churchill "exacerbated" Hitler's aggression by taking a stand against him. Of course the aggressor doesn't have to expend as much energy to defeat an enemy that offers no resistance... but that is a far cry from "peace".Originally posted by ASLANSPAL:
Scott J said:
"Someone already started a worldwide guerrilla war against Americans."
I do not think we have seen the full force of a guerrilla war against the United States Scott J
bush has exacerbated that,
Yes... it is far better to let that maniac develop nukes... Lord forbid the world should begrudge us though. Have you been watching the news? Have you read Moussaoui's words? How about those coming out of Iran?if we use a major munition or a nuclear device against Iran I believe we would see the whole world begrudge us
Actually Al Qaeda is only the most prominent. There are others that have long been at war with America.and even more would actively take up vengeance to harm us at home and abroad as it stands now it is the Al Qaeda movement that is active against us you would see that multiply if we bomb Iran.
Again, they aren't alone now.In other words more than Al Qaeda will join the ranks.
He didn't. That is simply a lie that you have chosen to believe and repeat. He recognized Saddam as a threat and based decisions on what to do about him on the available intelligence.bush should never have used deception and fear mongering to get us into a mess
Or perhaps you are simply blinded by hatred for Bush....but perhaps there was money to be made in Iraq or so they thought.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. As a matter of fact, the History Channel recently ran a program detailing the origins and ideology of the Baathists. They are fascists. Their founder was enamoured with the person and ideology of Hitler.Scott J your Hitler analogy is bogus and clueless we are talking about here and now
You haven't proven that he has done so. You've assumed that because YOU want to... because you hate Bush. Hate is not a lense good for discerning the truth...and how a leader has used deception(attribute of anti-christ)
Nope. Your contention is that the problem of Saddam would have gone away if we had simply appeased him and that our current problems will go away if we just try to talk it out with Iran. History and wisdom are decidedly against you.It is not about the bogus appeasement straw man but it is about wisdom.
Really? When? Not very much in my lifetime and certainly not since the end of the Cold War. Without the threat of the USSR, the real feelings of our "allies" have been free to surface.The world used to really love and like us
Very much akin to saying that a bank has been thrown into turmoil because the police showed up to stop a robbery and engaged the criminals in a gun battle..now the world is thrown into turmoil of dislike and hate for us and those numbers will grow if we bomb Iran.