Goodbye for now!

The highlighting in the above paragraphs are mine, for I considered the statements an oxymoron. For if they were true, then one of our Moderators would have zapped this thread by now, or at least would have moved it to another place (out of view, like the Moderators forum), and not the least they would have edited it from projecting a derogatory statement. But all I see is the original statement by the usual penmanship of our Brother Adam. I do not see the thread being transferred, the paragraphs edited, or the whole post treated with the same respect as Brother Adam is treating the BaptistBoard.com Moderators and Administrators.

Brother Adam, your statement stands as a monument to your faith and belief. We will not delete it, for this board is still the same as it was before. Only it got a little more sophisticated. But you are free my friend to throw mud on us Moderators and Administrators, even though we are trying to do an incredible job on an incredible board. I do not believe we can always please everybody on the board, some will always get offended, some think that they are right and we are wrong. We do not try to defend our action, only point out that it was done for the benefit of the whole.

When you were accusing the Administrators of this board to ban several Catholics, and this is the reason you are now saying good bye. If that was only that simple, that would make our work so much easier. The statement, which was posted in the Baptist Board.com Announcements forum by Dr. Bob Griffin was a result of long weeks of discussion in the Moderators forum. Our attention was brought to the fact that our Catholic friends, who came to this Baptist Board some time back, changed their personal testimonies to open proselytizing. There were members who braggingly posted their personal achievements of turning a Baptist person back to the fold of the Catholic Church. The acclamation from our Catholic friends were quite loud and noticeable. Their courage grew and some of the subsequent remarks were insinuating that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation.

Even though some of the banned members now backpedaling and say that they did not mean it that way, and we misunderstood their implications, the fact stays. One of our Moderators was called a heathen by a zealous faithful, for she did not prescribed to the same theological persuasion as our Catholic friends. Needless to say that we did not ban members from this board lightly in any circumstances. There were KJBO zealots, who were banned for the reason of personal attack on another member. There were atheists, who after long warnings and tolerance finally had to be banned because they literally destroyed the credibility of our Christian scientists. Later those who voiced their support in favor of homosexual unions and relationships were littering the board all over with their threads, and although we tried to do damage control by sending these threads either to the Men's or the Women's Private Forum to keep them out of public eyes, and the Christian children who frequent our boards from all over the world. No safeguards was sufficient to keep these threads out of limelight, they surfaced time and again. We had no choice but ban those who were so strong in their belief system that homosexuality is not condemned in the Bible. Even though some claimed Soul Liberty, in expressing their views and private interpretation of the Bible, for the sake of the very young we could not let this go unchecked.

So the statement that we the BB leaders came up with a new policy and banned certain Catholics from the board is simply does not compute. The game plan was changed by these Catholic brothers and we had to change the rules. It strikes me strange, however, Brother Adam, that you would all of a sudden jump on the defensive when it was you who begged the Moderators and Administrators a year ago to engage some of the loud posters in a personal debate involving Catholic dogma and theology. We have respectfully asked you not to do it, because frankly we surmised that you were young and academically unprepared for such a task. I myself would love to do it, but I have a life and no time left for these interesting and challenging feasts. But how about you? Are you know having a change of heart and you rise on the defense of those who a fortnight ago diligently and systematically worked on establishing a strong Catholic stronghold on the Baptist Board (as one of them said, a lighthouse for truth). As if we would not have the light, it seems.

If you leave, it is because once again you did not think things over carefully. You use your head instead of your heart, and you judge people rather than examine. You have been always kind of hot headed, so we are not surprised of your sudden outburst and farewell speech. Before you go, however, just remember that there are many more Catholics here on this board and are enjoying the interaction between fellow believers. Remember also that you have been treated well here on this board by your peers. We have given you sound advice many times, when you faced difficult situations in life, and we did not ever wanted to lead you astray. If you go, it will be up to you. We wish you God's speed and ever present grace to lead you on your journey of faith. We do, however, respectfully disagree with your summation of our action, and wish that the Lord show you that - in time. Fare well and God bless!

 

The "odd thing" for me is that there were 1 or two posters on this board (Brother Adam being one) that would post in defense of "odd RC doctrines" - doctrines that one could not possibly believe in without first "being" Catholic.

I can't understand how purgatory, praying to the dead, the odd view of "what you eat saves you", and other strange RC doctrine could get "any support" from a Bible believing non-RC.

Yet when these doctrines are opposed - a few (a very few) non-RC members would post against anyone challenging these RC doctrines. I find that "odd". How does one get to that point?

In Christ,

Bob

 

Adam, you came to this board almost three years ago. Then you were younger, zealous for the truth, and far more "Baptistic" in your beliefs. Since you have been posting in this forum I have noticed your belief system gradually changing. You now accept many of the Catholic heresies that you did not accept before. If anything, you are the very proof that the administration has made the right decision. My guess is that you have been greatly influenced by the Catholic apologists who have posted here (advertised here), and have challenged you to study their materials more thoroughly. And so you did. Instead of looking into the Bible you looked into heresy, and swallowed it--hook, line, and sinker.
I don't know of any Baptist who believes in the same things you believe in, though many Catholics do.
DHK

 

I am sure the Jews and Romans felt quite justified in silencing christians after all they were just protecting there synagogues and their country.

In these on-line communities the silencing of christian truth is condoned by the same reasoning it just involves less bloodshed.

 

the silencing of Christian truth??
Look well into history my friend--especially the Dark Ages; the time of the Inquistion when those who believed and practiced the Bible were silenced in the most horrible and barbaric ways possibly known to mankind--all by the RCC. Look back further in history--to the Crusades; yes the Catholic led Crusades, an event in history that true Bible believing Christians disassociates with.
I don't think the Catholics have much ground to stand upon when it comes to talking of "silencing the truth." You might ask William Tyndale of his opinion.
DHK

 

So who got banned anyway? I have had great conversations with several Catholics on this board and would hate to lose touch. Does anybody know a board where some of the banned are "hanging out"?

Have any non-catholics been banned? There have been others who have "sold" there beliefs as much as anyone.

Thanks in advance for any answers,
In Christ,
Brian

Bye Adam, maybe I will run into you on another board!

 

Briguy, we never state the names of those who have been banned for their own privacy.
Also, it is internet etiquette to usually not link other message boards unless it is specifically stated by the Webmaster of the board you're on that it is ok.
Sending private messages or e-mail is another story. Plus, since Adam stated he isn't posted anymore, he'd probably be more likely to respond to that type of communication rather than a question posted here on the board.
Gina

 

The last post on this thread was deleted.
Please keep this thread decent. It is not to be used to further promote and defend the Catholic faith, that's what got people banned in the first place.
I was a bit skeptical about keeping this thread open in the first place, but trusted that the membership would keep it decent and they have.
(thanks everyone!) Now, let's keep it that way!
Gina

 

Fine...


Quit attacking those who cannot defend themselves. Quit saying that their holidays are fake (Lent), quit trying to make yourselves feel bigger by making others feel smaller.

When you attack a person in Christ, it's as if you are attacking Christ himself.

It's sad to read these posts knowing that those attacked cannot defend themselves. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

Teresa, Catholocism and it's false beliefs have managed to defend themselves perfectly fine in this world. The last thing we need is Christians defending heresy as well, and feeling sad over being asked not to do it on a Christian board.
That's enough on this nonsense. If one wishes to defend heresy it cannot be done on this board, and that is final. No banned members were personally attacked on this thread, so I'm not sure where you're coming from.
This is not out of hatred or anger, this is out of love for the truth, and those that have encouraged those defending it to return to the truth are not doing it out of hatred and anger, we do it because we love you and want you to be in the truth.
I feel the responses here by most were appropriate, people were allowed to air their views, complaints, and ask questions, and it was helpful to most.
Gina

 

Brother Adam
May the Lord Bless and KEep you!!1

 

This is an open area of the board where members that are not Baptists can come and defend their views. I for one have been very active in challenging our RC bretheren on different points of their faith where I believe they are in error.

In my opinion - any non-RC reading the discussion can easily see them being asked "hard questions" and can see for themselves if the RC response is to respond in a careful - detailed - compelling way that addresses the points raised - or if they simply "dodge" the points raised with excuse after excuse.

The Catholic church did not grow to over one Billion by accident. The dark ages did not happen by accident. Humanity has sufferred when Christian have grown complacent.

It is because non-Catholics are not "better informed" than they are ... not "used to exegesis" ... not used to digging in on the hard questions -- that Catholics have success and that the cults have success.

This board can be a place where serious christians in all denominations share their ideas - and stretch their faith and their Bible study to better understand the Gospel. I for one am delighted to see Catholics come here to put out their doctrines in the open square of human opinion to see if they can stand up in a "sola scriptura" zone like this one.

I would rather debate with them here than on their extremely biased RC message boards where in response to a serious challenge to RC doctrine they respond with "no-Bible" at all and then go about congratulating themselves "as if they did something good".

"A little thick skin" is required when coming to a debate board. A little kidding around is expected. That is a "given".

But it should not deteriorate into "nothing more than whining, ranting or pointless ad hominem name calling". That does not help any group, and certainly does not further the cause of Christ.

In Christ,

Bob

 

I'm sorry that you see that way, Gina. But unfortunately, attacks have been made, and when my husband gets attacked, they've attacked me.

You asked where some of my comments came from: the Lent comment, that's in reference to that degrading thread started by a certain someone.

False statements have been made about our neighbor's (Catholic) faith and you find that acceptable.

I suppose I should stop posting on this thrad, though. I'm sure I'll be called out-of-bounds, and ignorant in my statemnents, but the fact is that I understand what Catholics believe, and it is very sad that attacks are allowed to go on.

 

Or, the Catholic faith has been around much much longer than the Baptist denomination for some reason.

Now, I do not claim to be Catholic, nor do I claim that I agree with all Catholic doctrine, but why is it that when the Catholics ask a question, that their's goes unaswered?

 

Can you give an example of a serious RC question - a Bible based challenge - that has gone unnanswered?

In Christ,

Bob

 

Read the threads...you will find them...

 

I have read them -- I have posted on them. I have yet to find a single serious Bible-based question asked by any RC member - that has gone unnanswered.

If there is a thread on here that has such a question - that has gone without response - please point me in that direction. Nothing would please me more than to address the question.

In Christ,


Bob

 

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Thank you.

And now - I have posted there as well.

In Christ,

Bob