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GOP 'Begging For America To Fail'

Revmitchell

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It is an outright lie that if the President fails at taking the country in the wrong direction that means the country fails. The President has no more power that any of the other branches of government. (government 101) All three branches of government are equal.

Someone is showing their ignorance in a grand way.
 

Salty

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Rush didn't say he wanted America to fail. He said he wanted Obama to fail and I agree with him in the same sense that, if a bear were mauling my child to death, I would want the bear to fail.

More specificaly, Rush wanted Obamas policies to fail - since many of them were poor policies.

...If the Repukes succeed in shutting down the government and causing a default on our debt, it will have major fiscal ramifications. .
Its not just the Republicians - why wont the deamoncrats compromise?

Democratic House candidates got over a million more votes than the 'Publicans. The only reason the GOP controls the House is because of gerrymandering. ...
First - do you have the reference for the million more votes and the gerrymandering?
second, how many of those deamoncrats ran unopposed? That would account for many of those million votes
 

Zaac

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We have one thing in common. We both despise the GOP leadership in the Congress. However, it is for different reasons. You think there is a gap between them and the Democrats. I think the GOP is 50 feet up the Democrats where the sun does not shine.

You have a good point to make to the GOP apologists on this board. But you fail to see the similarity with your heroes on the Democrat side.

:applause: SN I kid you not. Those were my sentiments after the first Presidential debate during the last cycle. There was something about the way they spoke to each other afterwards that said "this is all for show for the American people and we're really on the same side working towards the same things".

Back in 2011, the latest numbers I see, the average Senator was worth 14 million. The average member of the House, 6.6 million.

But they represent the people?
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That's hilarious. Why aren't the people represented by the run of the mill factory worker or single mom trying to make ends meet?

I don't behoove anyone for having money. But I think the love of that money has made our "representatives" more representative of themselves and their quest for more for them than they are for America.
 

Bro. Curtis

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As any president has so much power and so much influence it becomes obvious that anyone who says they want a president to fail is in essence saying they want America to fail.


No, not obvious at all. What is obvious, is you do not honestly even care what was said. You will report it whatever way suits you.
 

FollowTheWay

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A sad commentary on the state of our public school system. We do not live in a Democracy. We live in a Constitutional Republic.

I know the difference between the two. OK. It is a Republic. So what? Why did GW Bush try to force democracy/republic on other countries?
 

FollowTheWay

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In reality we live in neither one. I've heard radical Republicans decry the "tyranny of the majority." They don't care about the principles that this country was founded upon. They only care about getting what they want.
 

JohnDeereFan

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As any president has so much power and so much influence it becomes obvious that anyone who says they want a president to fail is in essence saying they want America to fail.

I do not want either to fail ... regardless of who is president, regardless of what party they represent ... regardless of what year it is.

I want both to succeed.

Sorry, but when a president or the federal government is doing something harmful and contrary to principles of liberty, I feel no obligation to root for their success.
 

FollowTheWay

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It is an outright lie that if the President fails at taking the country in the wrong direction that means the country fails. The President has no more power that any of the other branches of government. (government 101) All three branches of government are equal.

Someone is showing their ignorance in a grand way.

ObamaCare has been the law of the land for 4 years. What other laws do you refuse to accept?
 

saturneptune

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We already have a one party system. It's called the authoritarian party. These "big serious debates" in congress are just political theater to keep us divided and not thinking about how together the democrats and republicans have pushed the USA to the brink of disaster

Just more smoke and mirrors from the authoritarian party that has occupied Washington DC. The longer they can keep us distracted and divided with this kind of political theater the longer these corporatist criminals can stay in power.

You know why these idiots will never let a government shut down happen? They're afraid if they did we'd see how much better we could all get along without them and their big government "solutions".

I usually do not watch CSPAN, but have been today. Words to describe the actions of this 535 member circus are beyond human language. This is a collection of human trash, and we are paying for it. Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell are a disgrace to this nation. It reminds me of teaching elementary school. Oh how I wish I could be dictator of the United States for just 24 hours.
 

saturneptune

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I know the difference between the two. OK. It is a Republic. So what? Why did GW Bush try to force democracy/republic on other countries?

There may be a difference under an electron microscope. The gap is the Constitution on one side and the two parties bunched up together on the other. The Republican apologists on this board are just as guilty as the most left liberal.
 

saturneptune

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Never heard Rush say he wanted America to fail. You want it to fail. We all know that. But never heard Rush say so.

Who cares what "Rush says." He is a sacrilegious, pill popping, womanizing, fat, self indulgent slob. End of story. That is why there is an off switch.
 

Don

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I love Bill Clinton, in the video, saying he'll be "shocked" if obamacare doesn't work.
You misunderstand, my friend; Clinton will be shocked if Obamacare doesn't end up making the American public so angry that we demand a better system, and subsequently get the government health system that they really wanted us to get all along. So naturally Clinton will be shocked if it doesn't work.... ;)
 

Salty

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ObamaCare has been the law of the land for 4 years. What other laws do you refuse to accept?

Conversely, DOMA was the law of the land - and Obama came out and said his admin will NOT enforce it.

Looks like both sides....
 

Zaac

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Conversely, DOMA was the law of the land - and Obama came out and said his admin will NOT enforce it.

Looks like both sides....

Has been for quite a while. They just have to throw their "constituents" a bone every now and then to make it look like they are for and against the same things.
 

Aaron

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:applause: SN I kid you not. Those were my sentiments after the first Presidential debate during the last cycle. There was something about the way they spoke to each other afterwards that said "this is all for show for the American people and we're really on the same side working towards the same things".

Back in 2011, the latest numbers I see, the average Senator was worth 14 million. The average member of the House, 6.6 million.

But they represent the people?
smiley-laughing001.gif
That's hilarious. Why aren't the people represented by the run of the mill factory worker or single mom trying to make ends meet?

I don't behoove anyone for having money. But I think the love of that money has made our "representatives" more representative of themselves and their quest for more for them than they are for America.
And here's a guy you really want agreeing with you!:thumbs:
 

saturneptune

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And here's a guy you really want agreeing with you!:thumbs:

No, by all means, he would be better jumping on your band wagon. Your standards are so high and reach all the way to our founding principles. Your corner stone is Rush Limbaugh, your foundation Mitt Romney, and your pillar is John McCain. Yes indeed.

Wear the badge of liberal Republican apologist proudly.
 

JohnDeereFan

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Who cares what "Rush says." He is a sacrilegious, pill popping, womanizing, fat, self indulgent slob. End of story.

Jesus also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.” - Luke 18:9-14

So, which one are you?
 

saturneptune

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Jesus also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.” - Luke 18:9-14

So, which one are you?

The parable has nothing to do with me. Why would a Christian listen to someone with no respect for the living God? If that is the best you can do for your political and world event commentary, then watch reruns of the Gong Show.

The day that Rush Limbaugh says "God, be merciful to me a sinner," I will start listening to him. Say, how does that square with "talent on loan from God" as he pops his pills, stuffs his fat gut, and leads an adulterous life style.

If you are going to get on the radio and demean those who are for abortion and gay rights, while being a champion for family rights and right to life, then by golly, live the part. Otherwise, he needs to shut up.
 
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