What I am saying is the right never watched it, didn't care, didn't pay attention until the Liberals got the checkbook. Where was this outrage and demand for physical discipline when they had control?
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GOP Offers Budget
- Thread starter LeBuick
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What I am saying is the right never watched it, didn't care, didn't pay attention until the Liberals got the checkbook. Where was this outrage and demand for physical discipline when they had control?
The Reagan deficit was because we had an enemy that could defeat us...and they were dangerous. Come on, quit playing dumb.
And I doubt you're willing to admit it, but if you'd bother looking you'd find out that many (if not most) conservatives had a huge problem with Bush's spending. Many of us (including myself) spoke out against it.
But that would mess up your argument, so you'll ignore it. Nice job.
So you had outrage about Bush but not Reagan. The cold war existed 30 years before Reagan took office. That same enemy that could defeat us when Reagan took office was able to defeat us the previous 30 years but didn't. Sure, Reagan scared us as a nation into investing tons in defense to include his star wars initiative, the questions is, now that we know the USSR didn't have near the capability we were told by Reagan, was all that spending necessary?
Secondly, we are currently in an economic crises potentially destructive to our way of life just as the Soviet threat. You are saying it was ok for Reagan to spend during his crises but Obama shouldn't spend on his crises since it will raise the deficit? Don't you see the hypocrisy in your thinking?
LB sez: After making such a confession, you would do well to observe the old adage:
"Tis better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!"
Now I'm not calling you a fool, but statements like this quote from you, should make you ponder your thought processes and fiscal knowledge a bit prior to "bloviating" (love that term from O'Reilly) on the subject!
And just in case you still don't see the point, gov't has no money that they don't get from you - that same money that you would spend for groceries, autos, recreation etc that you now no longer have since they legally robbed you of it.
Actually, those are the words of many economist who believe Obama stimulus package was far too small. They believe Government needs to do more stimulating by spending. You might have been right if I were the only one with this view, but since I am only echoing the words of many economic experts far more qualified than your or I, I believe you should have taken your own advice and kept silent...
Well it's obvious that if the dems get the health-care they so desperately crave, the cure for cancer (or whatever) will revert to cranial drilling to let the 'Evil Spirits" out.
Seems reasonable though, if SPENDING is the way to get out of debt!
Has anyone else noticed the absence of God-given common sense lately?
I have seen her only rarely in the last few decades, but she seems to have completely disappeared in the last few months - is she dead?
Seems reasonable though, if SPENDING is the way to get out of debt!
Has anyone else noticed the absence of God-given common sense lately?
I have seen her only rarely in the last few decades, but she seems to have completely disappeared in the last few months - is she dead?
So you had outrage about Bush but not Reagan. The cold war existed 30 years before Reagan took office. That same enemy that could defeat us when Reagan took office was able to defeat us the previous 30 years but didn't. Sure, Reagan scared us as a nation into investing tons in defense to include his star wars initiative, the questions is, now that we know the USSR didn't have near the capability we were told by Reagan, was all that spending necessary?
Secondly, we are currently in an economic crises potentially destructive to our way of life just as the Soviet threat. You are saying it was ok for Reagan to spend during his crises but Obama shouldn't spend on his crises since it will raise the deficit? Don't you see the hypocrisy in your thinking?
I don't see the hypocrisy in my thinking...but I do see the futility in yours.
I'll type slow: Reagan was building our defenses to thwart an attack by the USSR. Did you get that?
Reagan's predecessor was a capitulation artist, and he darn near emasculated our military. Perhaps a remedial course in US history would benefit you.
And this economic threat is not the same as a nuclear attack by our enemies. Surely you're smarter than that.
I know you love Obama...but you doth defend him too much.
The GOP were idiots. Many got power-hungry. Others were morally bankrupt. But...there ARE Republicans that get it. There are far fewer Democrats that do.
I'm not expecting you to concede that point...but truth doesn't need your approval.
I don't see the hypocrisy in my thinking...but I do see the futility in yours.
Which is the hypocrisy...
I'll type slow: Reagan was building our defenses to thwart an attack by the USSR. Did you get that?
Yep, Reagan spent on what he felt was the crises of his administration.
Reagan's predecessor was a capitulation artist, and he darn near emasculated our military. Perhaps a remedial course in US history would benefit you.
But the USSR never attacked so it really amounts to the difference in what Carter and Reagan viewed as sufficient military...
And this economic threat is not the same as a nuclear attack by our enemies. Surely you're smarter than that.
But is a crises for this administration just the same. You can argue that Obama crises doesn't compare to a nuclear attack but every crises has to be addressed no matter how big or small.
The GOP were idiots. Many got power-hungry. Others were morally bankrupt. But...there ARE Republicans that get it. There are far fewer Democrats that do..
Bush and the GOP took on what they felt were priorities during their tenure. The biggest parts of his spending where things he termed "emergency" spending so never put in his budget. The GOP unfortunately, like Reagan, simultaneously cut taxes which netted us a larger deficit. Obama offered to raise taxes on the rich to offset his spending.
I am neither Democrat or Republican but there is something I can say for the democrats, they tell you they're going to spend and don't pretend cutting taxes will pay for it.
Well it's obvious that if the dems get the health-care they so desperately crave, the cure for cancer (or whatever) will revert to cranial drilling to let the 'Evil Spirits" out.
Seems reasonable though, if SPENDING is the way to get out of debt!
Has anyone else noticed the absence of God-given common sense lately?
I have seen her only rarely in the last few decades, but she seems to have completely disappeared in the last few months - is she dead?
Yep. Our country is now being run by the reprobate minds described in Romans Chapter 1. :tear:
Yep. Our country is now being run by the reprobate minds described in Romans Chapter 1. :tear:
Did you mean WAS? Bush is gone so you need to stop talking about him... :laugh::wavey:
LeBuick, you are being intellectually dishonest. And your calling me a "hypocrite" is laughable. I criticized Bush roundly. And I have also done so (more, because he's more dangerous, leftist, and thinks government is the answer to everything) with Obama.
Of course, you have retreated into the equation of "left=good; right=bad," paired with "all Republicans are right-wing monsters; all Democrats are working hard to rescue our country from satan's minions, all Republicans." You seem incapable of understanding there is a difference between party affiliation and political/social philosophy. Try getting that, and the politics forum will make more sense to you. You might even learn something (If you're willing to).
I will be the first to admit that not all Democrats are Barney Frank perverts and subverters of individual freedoms. However, they are supporting a party that has no problems with babies being killed...so obviously their judgement is suspect. I also have stated many times that Republican does not equal moral or Christian. And many Republicans showed fiscal irresponsibility and moral failures. But...where we are currently, without question there are a higher percentage of Republicans that support individual liberties than democrats. See...intellectual honesty can be fun. You should try it sometime.
But, since Obama has become perfect in your eyes, you resort to "the right" perjoratives. (I can't figure out if you always thought this, but reserved statement at first...or if you've grown to believe he a better president than George Washington). You conveniently gloss over the fact that the party in charge is eroding our liberties. But, I guess you don't value liberty that much.
It's a shame. I'll be sure to send you a thank you note for your undying support of what is likely the most anti-liberty government in this country.
I re-iterate my request to you to beef up on your US history. It would be enlightening for you.
Of course, you have retreated into the equation of "left=good; right=bad," paired with "all Republicans are right-wing monsters; all Democrats are working hard to rescue our country from satan's minions, all Republicans." You seem incapable of understanding there is a difference between party affiliation and political/social philosophy. Try getting that, and the politics forum will make more sense to you. You might even learn something (If you're willing to).
I will be the first to admit that not all Democrats are Barney Frank perverts and subverters of individual freedoms. However, they are supporting a party that has no problems with babies being killed...so obviously their judgement is suspect. I also have stated many times that Republican does not equal moral or Christian. And many Republicans showed fiscal irresponsibility and moral failures. But...where we are currently, without question there are a higher percentage of Republicans that support individual liberties than democrats. See...intellectual honesty can be fun. You should try it sometime.
But, since Obama has become perfect in your eyes, you resort to "the right" perjoratives. (I can't figure out if you always thought this, but reserved statement at first...or if you've grown to believe he a better president than George Washington). You conveniently gloss over the fact that the party in charge is eroding our liberties. But, I guess you don't value liberty that much.
It's a shame. I'll be sure to send you a thank you note for your undying support of what is likely the most anti-liberty government in this country.
I re-iterate my request to you to beef up on your US history. It would be enlightening for you.
Did you mean WAS? Bush is gone so you need to stop talking about him... :laugh::wavey:
Are you aware that JustChristian has access to your login?
Oh, sorry...that WAS you. You just cut & pasted one of his lines.
But, since Obama has become perfect in your eyes, you resort to "the right" perjoratives. (I can't figure out if you always thought this, but reserved statement at first...or if you've grown to believe he a better president than George Washington). You conveniently gloss over the fact that the party in charge is eroding our liberties. But, I guess you don't value liberty that much.
What liberty has Obama taken?
Did I loose my drama queen title that fast?