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Government Workers and Union Members Get Special Favors

Dragoon68

Active Member
>Yes, very brave position for you to take now that you are retired from your union job.

It was something I fell into. Nothing I had planned for. All I ever wanted was job security and enough to pay my blue collar working class bills. I been a coward all my life . . . never wanted to work for myself or to claw my way up any food chain. It never bothered me to pay union dues.

You freedom loving people who want to be independent, to work yourselves, who don't want to co-operate with others for you mutual benefit . . . if it worked out for you . . . good for you. You worked for and worried for every cent.

But if it didn't work out . . . you are smarter, braver, harder working and more freedom loving than I am . . . what can I say to you?

But St James wrote:

2: 5 Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?

IS IT NOT the rich who are exploiting you?????

Anything you gained by collective bargaining with your employer is yours - fair and square - but you're not entitled to anything else just because you were a union worker - also fair and square.

The "evil rich" are the ones with capital to invest that creates jobs - something the government has never been able to do and never will. Or, if you were a public servant and a union employee, then you always are indebted to the taxpayers who provided your job - the one you didn't own but for which you provided skills - and a lot of those were wealthy.

The wealthy pay much more than their "fair share" of taxes, my friend, but it's the progressive tax structure that's unfair.

No man, rich or poor, carries anything to the grave with him except the riches he has stored up in heaven. The greatest or smallness of that reward has nothing to do with how rich or poor you were but more to do with how you used whatever - great or small- that God blessed you with during your time on earth.

Many a rich man has done great things for others less wealthy than he and sometimes only as charity not even for work in return.

If you believe otherwise you may be suffering for wealth envy - wishing you were rich instead of someone else and thinking if you're not then neither should they. The lust for money - not the possession of it - is the sin and many poor people suffer from that sin although, for sure, the Bible makes it clear it is very difficult for a rich man.
 

billwald

New Member
>The "evil rich" are the ones with capital to invest that creates jobs - something the government has never been able to do and never will.

I hire a kid to mow my lawn and the city hires a guy to mow the lawn in front of city hall. The economic principles are the same.

> if you were a public servant and a union employee, then you always are indebted to the taxpayers who provided your job -

No, the city needed my services and I wanted the job. I traded my time for money and benefits. It is an economic principle that when this sort of trade is made, when any trade is made, both parties at least think that they are gaining something.

> the one you didn't own but for which you provided skills

Why would I want to own a job? I'm not sure I understand the concept of owning a job. If I own a job . . . in reality, the job owns me? Please explain.
 

Dragoon68

Active Member
>... No, the city needed my services and I wanted the job. I traded my time for money and benefits. It is an economic principle that when this sort of trade is made, when any trade is made, both parties at least think that they are gaining something. ...

Yeah, you've got it right!. The city owned the job and you owned the skills. You give them your skills and they give you the job. Money is the commodity that's exchanged. That's what I've said many times on this board.

But if the city didn't have a job for you there might not have been one for you. The employers provide the jobs. Thank God for them - their wealth and their profits - that continue to provide gainful employment. Thank God also for those who can actually do the work.

But you didn't earn anything more than what was agreed to when you took the job. You didn't earn the right to get special treatment from the government because you were a union worker. That wasn't in the agreement. It's being forced upon the rest of now. That's the part that's wrong with the closed door Obama deal!

Remember, the liar said it would be open and seen on C-SPAN! Right!
 
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