Graduation requirements

[Salty]

I'll let the test scores speak for themselves, without prejudice.

In my opinion, education standards in this country are being lowered to approach the goal of an equal outcome.

that or - we don't want low achievers to feel bad.

I wonder how many youth baseball teams - no longer have a "most valuable player"
because it makes some kids left out.

 

[Baptist Believer]

or because people are sleeping around - make kids that either the bio dad leaves because he does not want to take up the responsibility
or Mom wants nothing to do with bio dad. and then it happens with someone else......

I’ve been doing a lot of genealogy work lately along my family line, and there is nothing new under the sun. Thanks for advances in medicine, we have fewer deaths at a young age, but immorality and divorce have occurred since the time of Cain.

...and this affect all racees, religions, ect -

Yes.

My sister-in-law (Caucasian) has had 5 kids with 4 different men
(my brother passed away about 30 years ago)

That’s sad to hear.

I dealing with a grandmother and her adult daughter - same situation...

May God give you wisdom and grace,

As a reminder, despite my using the photo of Daryl Davis as my avatar, I’m a white guy.

 

[Salty]

May God give you wisdom and grace, (about the grandma and adult daughter)
.

Thank you

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

No. I was simply responding to a viewpoint that suggested that “race” is a determiner of intelligence (“IQ”). I don’t believe that nonsense.

Glad to hear you don't knowingly agree with the new "accommodation" nonsense. However, there is a powerful push to dumb down education in order to hide disparities.

Arguing there's no such thing as race or racial differences is singularly unhelpful, because race is precisely what they are basing these movements on.

Decisions on how to educate should not be based on equalizing the differing distributions between Asians, Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics, yet this is what they focus on.

Holding back higher achievers as a means to "help" lower achievers is madness, but that is what they are set on doing, and they are doing so because of race.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Arguing there's no such thing as race or racial differences is singularly unhelpful...

No, it's biblical. There is only one race, according to the Bible (Acts 17:26, among many other passages). This is allegedly a Christian site, yet there are people pushing the idea that people of various ethnicities are fundamentally different. There are minor biological differences in persons of different ethnicities, but different ethnicities are not necessarily persons of significantly different skin color. And intelligence, once one accounts for social conditions, is fairly evenly distributed throughout humanity.

Holding back higher achievers as a means to "help" lower achievers is madness, but that is what they are set on doing, and they are doing so because of race.

You seem to think that longstanding societal oppression, privilege or expectations have had no effect on the achievement of children born into the social strata of our society. That's false. And that doesn't simply occur along racial lines, it occurs across economic lines and even among persons of certain cultures, like Louisiana Acadians (Cajuns). I grew up in a blue collar town among LOTS of Cajuns, and the schools saw their role as preparing us to work in the refineries. There was not much emphasis upon going to college, and Cajuns who had mild Acadian French accents were often thought to be less intelligent than the rest. We only had one black student in any of my schools the entire time I was in K-12, and she was a sophomore when I was a senior in 1984, since schools in my area were heavily segregated. Desegregation came to my part of Texas in 1982, when the Beaumont ISD was required by a judge's order to integrate their school district.

So I know a little bit about this issue from personal experience.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

No, it's biblical. There is only one race, according to the Bible (Acts 17:26, among many other passages). This is allegedly a Christian site, yet there are people pushing the idea that people of various ethnicities are fundamentally different. There are minor biological differences in persons of different ethnicities, but different ethnicities are not necessarily persons of significantly different skin color. And intelligence, once one accounts for social conditions, is fairly evenly distributed throughout humanity.


You seem to think that longstanding societal oppression, privilege or expectations have had no effect on the achievement of children born into the social strata of our society. That's false. And that doesn't simply occur along racial lines, it occurs across economic lines and even among persons of certain cultures, like Louisiana Acadians (Cajuns). I grew up in a blue collar town among LOTS of Cajuns, and the schools saw their role as preparing us to work in the refineries. There was not much emphasis upon going to college, and Cajuns who had mild Acadian French accents were often thought to be less intelligent than the rest. We only had one black student in any of my schools the entire time I was in K-12, and she was a sophomore when I was a senior in 1984, since schools in my area were heavily segregated. Desegregation came to my part of Texas in 1982, when the Beaumont ISD was required by a judge's order to integrate their school district.

So I know a little bit about this issue from personal experience.

I agree that "race" is a human construct. I bolded the part above because the same issues occurred in northern New England, both with the Acadians in the St. John Valley and the Quebecois brought in ~175 years ago to help run the region's textile and leather goods mills. It's not totally gone but far less prevalent than 50 years ago.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I agree that "race" is a human construct. I bolded the part above because the same issues occurred in northern New England, both with the Acadians in the St. John Valley and the Quebecois brought in ~175 years ago to help run the region's textile and leather goods mills. It's not totally gone but far less prevalent than 50 years ago.

Yes. Cajuns (the displaced Acadians of Louisiana) faced enormous prejudice in the late 19th century, but a resurgence of pride in Cajun heritage and traditional music has made a huge difference. They are generally great people and I dated a few Cajun girls growing up. The food is amazing and I even have a bit of fondness for traditional Acadian music, even though I only understand about 20% of the lyrics.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

Yes. Cajuns (the displaced Acadians of Louisiana) faced enormous prejudice in the late 19th century, but a resurgence of pride in Cajun heritage and traditional music has made a huge difference. They are generally great people and I dated a few Cajun girls growing up. The food is amazing and I even have a bit of fondness for traditional Acadian music, even though I only understand about 20% of the lyrics.

We lived almost 10 years in the St. John Valley/northern Maine during the 1970s and 80s for my forestry job. The region is 90%+ Francophone and 90%+ Roman Catholic, but all took pride in the Acadian heritage, even the Quebecois and the "English", the local term for all non-Franco, whether of English, German, Nigerian, etc. ancestry.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

... You seem to think that longstanding societal oppression, privilege or expectations have had no effect on the achievement of children born into the social strata of our society. ... So I know a little bit about this issue from personal experience.

It only seems that way because you make so many false assumptions about me, as is your wont.

Your personal experience is irrelevant, and you don’t know mine. But as you said, you only “know a little … from personal experience.” Seems we found something to agree on.

 

[Baptist Believer]

It only seems that way because you make so many false assumptions about me, as is your wont.

Feel free to clarify your position.

Your personal experience is irrelevant, and you don’t know mine.

It may be irrelevant to you, but it is experience from which I can draw understanding. Your experience (which has not been offered), molds your understanding as well.

But as you said, you only “know a little … from personal experience.” Seems we found something to agree on.

Yes, I am open to new information. I don't claim to know everything, but in what I put forward as knowledge, I have great confidence.