Greatest threats to the future of fundamentalism

I was born into an active SBC immediate family.

My earliest memories include conversations my parents were having with their friends about some doctrinal issues that I was too young to understand, but I remembering my mother say (more than once)

Well, I believe in the 5 Fundamental doctrines of the faith!

I never heard anyone say what they are, but as an adult, I took a study course which the guest pastor described it as Psycology 101 only based on the Bible.

A memory that I have of that course is about the different needs and personalities of different churches.

We learned that some doctrines are absolutely vital corresponding to the vital organs in our physical body, without which there can be no life.

If a church doesn't have these vital attributes, then it is not a living church.

I remember that those vital doctrines included 'The Virgin Birth of Christ', 'Salvation by grace through faith in Jesus' I have never known which exact ones are considered vital [FUNDAMENTAL).

I wonder if I just do not know what the people who call themselves 'Fundies' teach.

I thought Fundamental was the same as Conservative.

By the way, the new group of Texas Baptists is not 'The Conservative Baptist Fellowship' but 'The Cooperative Baptist Fellowship' and their members are liberals who became increasingly unhappy with us 'Bibliolaters'.

We do not 'worship the Scriptures' but we do believe that the God we worship means for us to believe them literally unless the text tells us they are figurative, parable, or allegory.

One pastor said in a week day Bible class, "The Bible doesn't mean what it says, it means what it means!"

Our church stayed with the SBC and our group of Texas Baptist Churches is named, "Southern Baptists of Texas"

Am I a fundamental?

 

Here is just one that is rampant in fundamental churches,people are content to sit in their respective pews and be spoon fed by their pastors,accepting what is being preached from the pulpits accross America as total truth rather than studying the Scriptures for themselves and allowing the Holy Spirit to guide them in all truth.

 

Here are the five fundamental doctrines
as i memorized them:

1. the imspiration and infallibility of Scripture

2. the deity of Christ

3. the substitutionary atonement of Christ's death

4. the literal ressurrection of Christ from the dead

5. the literal return of Christ in the Second Advent

Other doctrines are other doctrines,
these are the fundamental doctrilnes IMHO.

 

Thanks Ed, I just printed the list.

By that list we are fundamentalist, but just not
members of an IFC. because all 5 of them are foundational to our faith.

Wasn't it on this thread that someone said the Scribes and Pharasees were all tied up in the Scriptures? (or something like that)

Actually their traditions contradicted the plain teaching of the Scriptures. Jesus rebuked them about that several times, the most severe in Matthew 23.

As a rule, people today are 'too busy' to study Scripture and I see that as a real weak spot in our churches.

And weak faith does not lead to witnessing the Gospel!

God bless and thanks again Ed.

Alliswell

 

And how unfortunate that was ...

 

Two completely different religions, two completely
different gods, in my opinion. I think it is far worse
that we are automatically connected with white
supremacists, Aryian Nations, skin heads,
European-Israel, Ku Klux Klan, and any other gun-totin'-everything-other-than-white-hatin'
groups, because they claim the same God as we
do, claim to read and believe the same Bible, and
some burn the cross as a supposed "light to the
world."

I do not, in any way, want to be connected to them!!

 

Dictionaries from the early 1980s say:

Fundamentalism,
Fundamentalist --

a 20-th century movements amongs some
American Protestants based on a literal interprtation
of everything in the Bible and regarded
as fundamental to Christian faith
and morals

By the early 1990s the liberal U.S. PRess was using
phrases like "fundamentalist Islamic terrorist".
Isn't that a hoot?
what is an American Protestant Muslim terrorist?
Actually, but the mid 1990s "fundamentalist"
meant "bigot". Talk about stealing a name.

 

Greatest threat to the future of fundamentalism?

Thinking...thinking...thinking

Ah yes....Fundamentalist, yes the answer is fundamentalist

 

Pastor Larry hit #1 on the head. If one doen't know the history of fundamentalism, then fundamentalism can be whatever one makes it to be.

SheEagle hit #2. Political correctness is forming the main frame of America today. And too many believers have fallen into it's correctness (or the lack there of).

I want to add my #3. Holiness. Without it, we just blend in with the rest.

[ January 14, 2003, 09:09 AM: Message edited by: TheOliveBranch ]

 

Here are the five fundamental doctrines
as i memorized them:

1. the imspiration and infallibility of Scripture

2. the deity of Christ

3. the substitutionary atonement of Christ's death

4. the literal ressurrection of Christ from the dead

5. the literal return of Christ in the Second Advent

Other doctrines are other doctrines,
these are the fundamental doctrilnes IMHO.</font>[/QUOTE]These certainly are fundamentals of the Christian faith. You could also apply these to the Catholic Church, so how are these the distinctives the Fundamentalists adhere to?

Jason

 

Refreshed: " ... so how are
these distincitives the
Fundamentalist adhere to?

This is a rhetorical question?
I await your answer.
Oh! a new topic appears to define
Historic Fundamentalism.
Thank you Brother Refreshed.
It will be interesting to finally see what
this Forum is all about

Maybe Alliswell will finally found out
if they are a Fundamentalist or not?

Will we find the worse threat to the future of
Fundamentalism is the past of Fundamentalism?
Oh, this is what Siegrried said in his intro
paragraph

 

Ed,

Your post sounds like a television advertisement for an upcoming show. I asked the question and then decided to post the new topic to keep this topic on-track. No, the question was not rhetorical. I really want to know!

Jason

 

1 Introverted and isolationist Fundamental Baptists
2 The loss of recognition of the Word as being God's Word
3 The use of terms such as laity - it denys the priesthood of ALL belivers and "elevates" the pastor to that position, .. sure to blend the FB into the ecumenical cesspot.

Thoughts of an Aussie where things are a bit different
Regards
Bob

 

bump

 

In my humble opinion, three things that are threatening the fundamental church today are these:

1. Compromising of the gospel message.

2. Promoting outward holiness over the Holy Spirit's guidance.

3. Hardening of hearts toward others.

 

Amen, I agree. I think what also hurts the fundamental baptist movement is that there are so many churches today, that don't even call themselves churches anymore. They call themselves "Fellowship" etc. They are more about entertainment and social gathering than worship, let alone being challenged, fortified and admonished by the word of God.

In Christ,
Laurenda

 

Grace

 

What is the greatest threat...not only to Fundamentalism...but to all...?

We can take a lesson from the first five words of the 23rd Psalm...

"The Lord is my Shepherd"...

"The Lord"...not a denomination...or a church...union...or creed...or anything else...
it is not the application of some principle...
but the acceptance of Jesus...

"is"...not tomorrow...or sometime...or when you have a few minutes...now!...and always!...

"my Shepherd"...it is a personal relationship with the Lord...

many...even the unsaved...know the Psalm..."the Lord is my Shepherd"...but not everyone knows the Shepherd who is the Lord...

Jesus is at the center...is all and everything...
People today...have drifted away from this...basic fact...they believe at Jesus...around Jesus...in Jesus...

but don't BELIEVE...JESUS...

many have wondered into worshiping religion...instead of Jesus...

have made religion their god...

I would paraphrase the first few lines of the 23rd Psalm...and say...

The Lord is my Shepherd...and He is all I want...

 

Amen, Sister Y'Israel -- Preach it!

The one biggest threat to Fundamentalism
is that Fundamentalist Christians will
forget the Fundamentals and go off in
all directions.