Greek and Hebrew numbering systems do you prefer -- Strong's or N/K

[37818]

Are you also making claims or counter-claims without proving them to be true?

Only when I asked for a case example nothing was given. I have an NIV (1984) exhaustive concordance. And a NASB (1977) exhaustive concordance. Neither use the Strong's numbers.

 

[JesusFan]

I don't think that the majority of people are using Scriveners edition of the KJV? Maybe it is the most accurate (unproven), but what percentages of KJV's use it's text?

Probably about the same number of then that use the 1611 Kjv

 

[JesusFan]

The 2001 The Strongest Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible was "fully revised and corrected by John R. Kohlenberger III and James A. Swanson" and printed by Zondervan.

In its introduction, its editors wrote: "there are errors in Strong's concordances and dictionaries. For example, under the heading RED, the reference in Acts 7:36 and Hebrews 11:29 have the number 2281 at the end of the context lines; however, this is the number of the Greek word for 'sea,' not 'red.' Even the 'new' and 'corrected' editions repeat this error. The Strongest Strong's goes farther than any other edition in correcting the generally excellent work of the original editor" (p. x).

In its introductions, its editors wrote: "our contexts reflect the relationship of the original languages and the English far more exhaustively than the original edition. Since most of Strong's contexts index a single word with a single number, the user gets the wrong impression that the KJV is a word-for-word, one-to-one translation. But the translators often translated single words with phrases, phrases with single words, and phrases with idiomatic phrases. The Strongest Strong's uses bold type and multiple Strong numbers to indicate tens of thousands of multi-word translation not indexed in any other edition" (p. x).

It may be assertions in the introduction to this Zondervan edition of Strong's that led the other poster to make his claim.

By the way, the Strongest Strong's is based on the 1873 Cambridge edition of Scrivener, and its editors think that it is the best edition of the KJV. This does cause it to have some differences with other Strong's Concordance editions. Since the 1873 Cambridge returned to several 1611 edition renderings that were changed in KJV editions based on the 1769, it makes this edition of Strong's of some value in comparing the 1611 edition to most post-1900 editions.

You are correct in assuming this is why stated that the reference tools used by the new numbering system are superior tools

 

[JesusFan]

Only when I asked for a case example nothing was given. I have an NIV (1984) exhaustive concordance. And a NASB (1977) exhaustive concordance. Neither use the Strong's numbers.

I was referring to the Strongest Strongs, and to the Zondervan Greek concordance and Greek-English concordance

 

[Salty]

Strong's

me too - but only only Blue Bible
My eyesight - even with glasses - the hard copy is too hard to read

 

[37818]

I was referring to the Strongest Strongs, and to the Zondervan Greek concordance and Greek-English concordance

Does not demonstrate anything one-way or the other.

 

[SovereignGrace]

I use Strings, but I no longer use it much.

5 or 6? When I used them it sounds like someone is scalding a cat...

 

[JesusFan]

Does not demonstrate anything one-way or the other.

They are more up to date and more accurate

 

[37818]

They are more up to date and more accurate

Repeating what not true doesn't make it true.

 

[JesusFan]

Repeating what not true doesn't make it true.

The strongest strongs updated and corrected the mistakes in strongs!

 

[Conan]

The strongest strongs updated and corrected the mistakes in strongs!

And introduced mistakes of its own.

 

[37818]

I use Str[o]ngs, but I no longer use it much.

 

[tyndale1946]

Strongs!... Whenever I do, every now and then, don't use it much... Brother Glen

 

[37818]

I use the MySword Bible app. The KJV uses the Strong's Dictionaries. And this keys the words TR Greek with a Grammar morphology. And Westcott & Hort Greek with a Grammar morphology. On my phone and tablet.

 

[JesusFan]

And introduced mistakes of its own.

still was a big improvement though over prior versions!

 

[JesusFan]

I use the MySword Bible app. The KJV uses the Strong's Dictionaries. And this keys the words TR Greek with a Grammar morphology. And Westcott & Hort Greek with a Grammar morphology. On my phone and tablet.

Is that related to the sword project for Pc?

 

[37818]

Is that related to the sword project for Pc?

Not that I am aware of.

 

[Logos1560]

William D. Mounce wrote: "Because Strong's numbers originally omitted many Greek and Hebrew words, Zondervan introduced a new set of numbers (done by Ed Goodrick and John Kohlenberger)" (Greek for the Rest of Us, p. 147).

 

[Conan]

The original strong's not only had the words for the KJV but also in the back there were listed the differences between the RV and ASV . Later editions deleted those.