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Gun Confiscation Crusade Begins

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Revmitchell

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Yes, of course. Everybody knows we are all in exactly the same place in our Christian experience, and that everything every poster posts is the absolute truth and every post is without factual error and therefore can never be corrected or disagreed with.

Strawman, I never said that nor implied that.

It is not a question of disagreeing. It is a question of posting that which is patently false. There are other posters with legal experience, ask them if his remarks concerning self-defense only applying when you are at home, or if there is a "special dispensation" for when you are out in the community, are accurate. Don't take my word for it. Get a second opinion.

Ok he may be wrong, he may be misinformed, he may be all kinds of things. It does not justify your ungodly accusation.

Well, one good thing has come from it. You now have a post to report to the Council. Your constant stalking of me, and contradicting everything I say, has finally paid off. Glad I could make your day so enjoyable.

When you say such outlandish things like this (and you do it regularly) they need addressed. This is just over the top. I do not respond to every post or everything you say so once again you employ hyperbole in an over the top manner. Should you and I be discussing what may or may not go to the council since that is not allowed to be openly discussed as I have been told?
 
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TCassidy

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Ok he may be wrong, he may be misinformed, he may be all kinds of things. It does not justify your ungodly accusation.
What, exactly, is "ungodly" and an "accusation" about my reply to him?

Here is what I said that seems to have triggered his ire:

"Actually 30 of the 50 states have self-defense laws that allow the use of deadly forces if the person is reasonably in fear for his life. And some states, such as Texas, include being in reasonable fear of loss of property (in Texas, only between sundown and sunup).

"Nope. Self defense is an affirmative defense in all 50 states. States with several different iterations of the Castle Doctrine often greatly expand that to include not only homes, but vehicles.

"Your living in California must have caused you to forget how free people live.
:)

So, please show me the "ungodly accusation" in my response to his false information?
 

Revmitchell

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What, exactly, is "ungodly" and an "accusation" about my reply to him?

Here is what I said that seems to have triggered his ire:

"Actually 30 of the 50 states have self-defense laws that allow the use of deadly forces if the person is reasonably in fear for his life. And some states, such as Texas, include being in reasonable fear of loss of property (in Texas, only between sundown and sunup).

"Nope. Self defense is an affirmative defense in all 50 states. States with several different iterations of the Castle Doctrine often greatly expand that to include not only homes, but vehicles.

"Your living in California must have caused you to forget how free people live.
:)

So, please show me the "ungodly accusation" in my response to his false information?

I quoted it and explained it. God back and read it.
 

Rolfe

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Thought that I would stop in and see what is happening on this site. Looks like nothing has changed.

Carry on.
 

thatbrian

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Cain circumvented the "assault rifle" ban. He crushed his brother's skull with a rock. . .

Twenty-five of the twenty-six mass shooters grew up in fatherless homes. If we really want to get to the root of that problem, it has its roots in feminism.
 

Matt Black

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Surely then the problem lies with lazy shiftless men rather than feminism, lol!

And you don't commit many mass murders with one rock.

Try again...
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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Cain circumvented the "assault rifle" ban. He crushed his brother's skull with a rock. . .

Twenty-five of the twenty-six mass shooters grew up in fatherless homes. If we really want to get to the root of that problem, it has its roots in feminism.
You can’t be serious
 

thatbrian

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Surely then the problem lies with lazy shiftless men rather than feminism, lol!

And you don't commit many mass murders with one rock.

Try again...

The feminism thing to likely too complicated for your to comprehend, judging by your posts, but it has to do with women demanding "equality" with men, "free love", abortion, women working out of the home, and no fault divorce, all of which feminism brought in, and all of which destroyed families.

Feminism helped destroy the family unit, which children, who take about 18 years to mature, need as their environment to do so properly.

Adding to the damage that feminism has done, the State was glad to hand women who have children out of wedlock a check and an apartment, further undermining men and their role, and you start eroding society, which is a windfall for Marxists, who want all to look to the State as god.

The vast, vast majority of murders are one-at-a-time. Add them, and they are quite a mass.
 
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JonC

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The problem is that guns are not the problem. If the U.S. chooses to tighten gun laws in order to prevent these things from happening it will fail. Even if we were similar (which we are not) to the UK, what we would see is a rise in other types of crimes. Compare, for example, the number of terrorist incidents in the UK with the number in the US. Look at the number of bombings. Guns are not the problem, therefore gun control is not the solution (although I do believe we need to tighten up or better enforce gun laws).

I saw a suggestion that smart phones be restricted to those over 21 years of age.

We simply are not addressing the problem.
 

Wesley Briggman

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The problem is that guns are not the problem. If the U.S. chooses to tighten gun laws in order to prevent these things from happening it will fail. Even if we were similar (which we are not) to the UK, what we would see is a rise in other types of crimes. Compare, for example, the number of terrorist incidents in the UK with the number in the US. Look at the number of bombings. Guns are not the problem, therefore gun control is not the solution (although I do believe we need to tighten up or better enforce gun laws).

I saw a suggestion that smart phones be restricted to those over 21 years of age.

We simply are not addressing the problem.
Your points are well taken. In your opinion, what is the problem? (I expect I will agree).
 

Matt Black

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If you are prepared to address the root causes as a society - and in the meantime accept the otherwise avoidable deaths that result from keeping the 2nd as is - then all well and good I guess.
 

TCassidy

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In 1776 King George ordered the confiscation of our firearms by the British Army. We shot them.
 
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