Guns and the Church

[Rolfe]

Yep! That's the only sort of gun I want.
I'd sooner be a man with a joke gun than a joke man with a real gun.

*laugh* I think that you might need to work on that famous British wit.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

It's there. Part II, No. 35.

Got it! Thanks.

1. This document refers to a Government enquiry on homicide and weapons in the Year 2000, 16 years ago. No statistics that I can see are later than 1997.
2. Mr. Colin Greenwood was one of over 40 members of the public and associations invited to say their piece. He is/was not a member of the Gov't and his views did not represent Gov't policy then or now. As one reads his submission, he clearly has his own particular axe to grind.
3.

35. Homicide statistics too vary widely. In some developing countries, the statistics are known to be far from complete. Figures for crimes labelled as homicide in various countries are simply not comparable. Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction, or where the person is not prosecuted on grounds of self defence or otherwise. This reduces the apparent number of homicides by between 13 per cent and 15 per cent. The adjustment is made only in respect of figures shown in one part of the Annual Criminal Statistics. In another part relating to the use of firearms, no adjustment is made. A table of the number of homicides in which firearms were used in England and Wales will therefore differ according to which section of the annual statistics was used as its base. Similarly in statistics relating to the use of firearms, a homicide will be recorded where the firearm was used as a blunt instrument, but in the specific homicide statistics, that case will be shown under "blunt instrument".

The reason for this is that if no one has been convicted, nobody knows if the perpetrator was guilty of murder, manslaughter or not guilty due to self-defence. However, in another statistic, looking purely at the use of firearms, no such adjustment is made.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me. Whether that is still the practice 16 years later, I have no idea.

 

[Rob_BW]

Got it! Thanks.

1. This document refers to a Government enquiry on homicide and weapons in the Year 2000, 16 years ago. No statistics that I can see are later than 1997.
2. Mr. Colin Greenwood was one of over 40 members of the public and associations invited to say their piece. He is/was not a member of the Gov't and his views did not represent Gov't policy then or now. As one reads his submission, he clearly has his own particular axe to grind.
3.

The reason for this is that if no one has been convicted, nobody knows if the perpetrator was guilty of murder, manslaughter or not guilty due to self-defence. However, in another statistic, looking purely at the use of firearms, no such adjustment is made.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me. Whether that is still the practice 16 years later, I have no idea.

Ya know, I tried to google up Colin Greenwood, and all I kept getting back was the bass player for Radiohead.