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Reynolds

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Subsidies are like drugs. They will take all they can get and continue to beg for more. They should get zero, they can make plenty of money on their own, even giving customers truly affordable rates.
I agree. Problem is with them stripped, the bill does not pass.
 

carpro

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The only down fall to being registered as an Independent in Pa is you don't have any say in the democratic or republican primary unless you are registered as one of them.

In Texas, no party affillliation is required to vote in any election.
 

HankD

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Subsidies are like drugs. They will take all they can get and continue to beg for more. They should get zero, they can make plenty of money on their own, even giving customers truly affordable rates.
When Obamacare breathes it's last things are going to go back to pre-Obamacare days if nothing gets done.

HankD
 

InTheLight

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I am hearing they are going to try to strip some of the government subsidies to the insurance companies.
The House version does not have Cost Sharing Reduction payments. The Senate version not only has them through 2019 but they would retroactively make payments that were halted back in 2016.

So, yes, it would seem to be a point of contention.

Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.
 

Salty

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I have a suggestion - get involved with your local county Republican committee. by being on the committee- you can help shape the direction of the
party- and decide who will be on the ballot.
Or at minimum - join one of the other recognized parties in PA.

I am on our county committee. At one time I was the town Chair for our party.
 

steaver

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What kind of Party stays divided to their own demise? Robust debate on different views is a good thing, but if you are a Party then at the end of the day the majority must prevail and a vote cast unanimously. Otherwise it is a worthless alliance as a "Party" and no real Party at all. Look at the Democrats, they know how a Party is to work, they stick together and get things done, even though it is bad things for the people of this country. We have no other Party that actually gets things done.
 

carpro

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What kind of Party stays divided to their own demise? Robust debate on different views is a good thing, but if you are a Party then at the end of the day the majority must prevail and a vote cast unanimously. Otherwise it is a worthless alliance as a "Party" and no real Party at all. Look at the Democrats, they know how a Party is to work, they stick together and get things done, even though it is bad things for the people of this country. We have no other Party that actually gets things done.

Politics, to democrats, is all out war. They will tell any lie and break any law to get what they want.

Republicans don't play by the same rules. So they frequently lose when they are in the right.
 

steaver

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Politics, to democrats, is all out war. They will tell any lie and break any law to get what they want.

Republicans don't play by the same rules. So they frequently lose when they are in the right.
A Party is suppose to work together and after all the debating a vote is taken and the majority rules. Those who voted no then agree to pass the bill unanimously. That is how any group should act. We take votes all the time in church, at the end of the day the majority or a 2/3rds wins out. 3 or 4 hold outs should not be allowed to thwart the will of the majority.
 

xlsdraw

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We, and Israel alike, are in the ebb preceding the great liberal tsunami. Trump and Netanyahu are ruining the testimony of conservativism with their corruption being exposed and magnified. While corruption is everywhere in today's world, there are two factors bringing on the liberal tsunami. 1st, conservatives have the backing of the religious right and is thus held to a higher standard. Note the lower standard applied to the Clintons amongst liberals in regards to Bill Clinton's indiscretions. 2nd, liberals, with the MSM in their pockets, are Experts at exposing and magnifying conservative hypocrisy. Prior to the flood, man's thoughts were continuously evil, hence in their society, they perceived not that their ways merited destruction. The retrobate's of today will also perceive not that their evil merits judgment. I believe a liberal tsunami may usher in the antichrist.
 

carpro

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Trump and Netanyahu are ruining the testimony of conservativism with their corruption being exposed and magnified.

It's well known that Trump is not a "conservative", but be that as it may...

Enlighten us about Trump's political corruption.

List all his corrupt political acts for us. should be easy for you since they've been "exposed" and "maqnified".
 

HankD

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FTR- in New York State - no one is an "independent" Legally you are considered "non-enrolled"
In addition - there is an organized NY political party with the name "Independence Party" Many people check that on
there voter registration thinking they are indicating they are independent. - NOT SO!
Here in WA we are known as "no-preference" so that's why I say I am a lower-case "i" independent.
If the day comes that even "no-preference" is disallowed the I will say "L" for Libertarian.

HankD
 

FollowTheWay

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They do not want to pass a bill. Trump is herding cats. It is an impossible task. The Rinos talk a good game, but have no desire to really change anything. The freedom Caucus wants to change everything, but get nothing done because the will not compromise on anything. Its a mess.
The reality is they can't pass a bill. Polls show that about 17% of the American people supported the House version. Pushing that bill would be political suicide. The Senate version was supported by about 22%. McConnell has the least support of any Senator in his home state.
 

Reynolds

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The reality is they can't pass a bill. Polls show that about 17% of the American people supported the House version. Pushing that bill would be political suicide. The Senate version was supported by about 22%. McConnell has the least support of any Senator in his home state.
They clean repealed Obama Care about every other day when it did not matter.
 

Yeshua1

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The wife and I have had enough of this dysfunctional Republican party. Ashamed to be named among them. The only reason we registered Republican is so we can vote in the Pa Primaries. We are going to go ahead and change our status to Independent.

I can't believe these idiots cant come up with a basic bill that keeps the government out of the people's health care choices. If they fail on this they can kiss the House goodbye in 2018. And then there is Trump, why isn't this great negotiator knocking heads together and making things happen? This aint rocket science! Get them together and ask them all what they want in the bill so they can vote yes...and put it in!
The problem Trump is having with his own party is that many there still refuse to accept him as President! At least the Dems make sense being against him, but his own party?
 

Reynolds

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I have a suggestion - get involved with your local county Republican committee. by being on the committee- you can help shape the direction of the
party- and decide who will be on the ballot.
Or at minimum - join one of the other recognized parties in PA.

I am on our county committee. At one time I was the town Chair for our party.
All you have to do to get on the Republican primary Ballot in Georgia is pay money and fill out paperwork. I used to be on the committee, but all we ever did was distribute a little bit of campaign money, drink coffee, and eat.
 

Salty

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All you have to do to get on the Republican primary Ballot in Georgia is pay money and fill out paperwork. I used to be on the committee, but all we ever did was distribute a little bit of campaign money, drink coffee, and eat.

Interesting - In NY - no fee is required - but you need x amount of signatures - based on the number of enrolled members of your party.
 
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