hallucinogenic drugs

Nothing is unclean in and of itself including hallucinogenic substances.

Many medicines are extracted from these substances.

Every time you go to the dentist and he gives you novocain or pain killer it is a derivative or relative of cocain.

However 1) these substances are to be used only under the direct control of a doctor. 2) it is against the law to possess halucinogenic mushrooms. 3) You can kill yourself quite dead by picking and eating the wrong kind of mushroom. 4) Why do you think you need a mushroom (fungus) to get closer to God?

HankD

 

Acts 24:25 And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee.

 

I am having trouble kicking chewin tobacky. I havent put forth a good effort lately, and havent really felt compelled to quit either. I know I should , but I just havent . Anyway BOT, I am extreme antidrug. A lot of folks I chat with use marijuana, and act as if it is no biggie. I always get the comparison to alcohol, caff., etc. Usually I have nothing smart to say in return. I believe anything used in excess is wrong, food, whatever. And anything illegal, is extremely wrong.

 

Jay, that's REALLY common around here. You almost trip over the tabacco wads in the Wal-Mart parking lot. Both my grandmother's used snuff.

 

It is common here also. Its such a stupid habit, paying nearly $5 a can, to spit it out and possibly get cancer. I was raised around it and its sort of a family tradition in my family as well.

 

It grossed me out so much that I've never even held a cigarette up to my mouth! Both grandmothers had to carry around spit cans. Ug

 

Unusual for a first post isn't it?

 

Yea, when I first saw it, I thought I was seeing things.

 

Anything that alters who you are and what you are is compeltely wrong.

Not that there is a specific commandment is not why I say that. This is why I say that:

You are who you are. Taking anything that alters you for a time, drugs, alkie , anything, just devalues the person that you are. It is a temp fix. It will not make things better in the long run. There are no quick and easy answers. There is only one answer. Hard work.

This isn't a lecture, it's a plea. Please don't do that to yourself. If you can not be true to anyone in the world, be true to yourself.

 

Yur welcome GLW.

You can "alter" your consciousness in a manner approved by God by prayer, fasting and meditating
in the Scriptures.

Check with your doctor before fasting.

HankD

 

Seems to me you were looking for some 'outside the BIBLE' responses.

[ January 19, 2005, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: dianetavegia ]

 

There is no outside the box answers on this one. Sure God made mushrooms but using them to alter yourself is abusing your body (which is a sin). I'm not sure of their purpose of being here on Earth but I highly doubt it was for an escape from reality!

 

Comments from a former druggie who did lots of "research" looking for the "next great high".


Psylicibin mushrooms are poisonous. That is why you have hallucinations. It is your body's and mind's reaction to the poison. Eat enough of them, you die. Eat just a few, you have a trip. Is that good enough for you?

Next, marijuana. Have you ever heard of hemp rope? I submit that, THAT is why God gave it to us. Not to smoke it. Probably some clown long ago was burning the leaves after stripping the stems for rope and got loaded. He than said WHOOPEE! and shared it with his buddies. I do not think it was EVER meant as some medicine. There is more tars and carcinogens in pot smoke than tobacco. BTW, nicotine is an excellent pesticide.

What about LSD? It comes from the mold of rye bread. It is called irgot. It was used long ago as an aid for both inducing labor and as an abortive. No good can come of that.

What about other stuff? Every drug causes a reaction to the body. This is called a side effect. Read some info pamphlets next time you are given a prescription. It will blow you away.

I said all that to say this. Does God WANT you to take poison into your body for fun? Think about it.

About beer. It comes primarily from hops and barley. Barley soup is good stuff. Hops on the other hand are cousins to...you guessed it, HEMP! I submit that hops were also for rope, not getting loaded.
This should be common sense people.

JMO

In HIS service;
Jim

 

Almost all mushrooms have medicinal value. But, just as certain flowers and their seeds (poppy, morning glory) their extracts are controlled substances to be admistered only by an authorized medical professional.

Extracted from a very interesting long article found in the public domain at:

http://www.naturalmedicine.co.za/sajnm_main/article.php?story=20030729115740949

One day perhaps, mushrooms may provide mankind with antivirals or antibiotics for viruses just as molds provide us with antibiotics for bacterial infection.

My adult children and I are amateur mycologists (mushroom gatherers) and enjoy harvesting wild mushrooms which are in a great abundance here in Washington State. Our favorites: Chanterelle, Morel, Matsutake, Hedgehog and Oyster.

We found about 20 lbs of matsutake this year which would be valued at several thousands of dollars in Japan (if one could get connected to the buyers). These are delicious gormet mushrooms with a sweet cinnamon spicey flavor.

NOTE: Never pick mushrooms for consumption if you are not trained in mushroom identification.

HankD

 

...as opposed to partially dead?

 

...sorry, I just couldn't resist.

 

This would be a LOL, but many people have killed themselves picking and eating Galerina mushrooms ("magic" look-a-like) thinking that they were "magic".

http://www.evergreen.edu/mushrooms/ifm/s42.htm

But you are correct, after eating a small but deadly Galerina you will definitely meet God face-to-face.

HankD

 

That's a great link, HankD. I am enjoying perusing it.

 

Cool link Hank. It has convinced me to collect my mushrooms from the store!