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Happy Reformation Day

FriendofSpurgeon

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Happy Reformation Day! Reformation Day is observed/celebrated the last Sunday of October -- hope you had a good one this past Sunday.
 

dcorbett

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???? Who reformed?

True Ana-Baptists never went through the Reformation. A good number were burned at the stake for refusing to baptize their babies and refusing to acknowledge the pope as head of the church long before Henry VIII decided that he needed a divorce.
 

Matt Black

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You obviously don't know your history; the Anabaptists only arose in the 1520s - hardly 'long before' Henry VIII's divorce in 1533.

Anyway, Reformation Day happily coincides with Halloween, which as good Christians we definitely do not celebrate over here. Instead, I shall have copies of Luther's 95 Theses ready to nail to the head of any child who has the temerity to knock on my door on Friday night demanding candy to remind them forcibly of what the date is really about!

[ETA - over here, in the Church of England, we call it 'Bible Sunday', as a kind of grudging nod towards Luther for making the Scriptures available on a large scale in the vernacular for the first time since the 5th century]
 
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FriendofSpurgeon

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dcorbett said:
???? Who reformed?

True Ana-Baptists never went through the Reformation. A good number were burned at the stake for refusing to baptize their babies and refusing to acknowledge the pope as head of the church long before Henry VIII decided that he needed a divorce.

The Reformation has to do with Martin Luther not Henry 8th. Only minor issues were addressed which impact all protestants -- things like salvation by grace not works, the priesthood of the believer, scriptures in the vernacular, etc.
 

Amy.G

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Matt Black said:
Anyway, Reformation Day happily coincides with Halloween, which as good Christians we definitely do not celebrate over here. Instead, I shall have copies of Luther's 95 Theses ready to nail to the head of any child who has the temerity to knock on my door on Friday night demanding candy to remind them forcibly of what the date is really about!
:laugh: Please take videos and post them for us!

(I hate halloween :mad: )
 

EdSutton

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Amy.G said:
:laugh: Please take videos and post them for us!

(I hate halloween :mad: )
How about All Saints Day? Is that OK?

Hallowe'en is a shortened version of All Hallow's Evening, which is the night preceding All Saint's Day, Nov. 1.

BTW, It was at midnight at the evening of and beginning of All Saint's Day, when Martin Luther nailed the 95 Theses to the door of the Wittenburg Church.

Ed
 

Amy.G

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EdSutton said:
How about All Saints Day? Is that OK?

Hallowe'en is a shortened version of All Hallow's Evening, which is the night preceding All Saint's Day, Nov. 1.

BTW, It was at midnight at the evening of and beginning of All Saint's Day, when Martin Luther nailed the 95 Theses to the door of the Wittenburg Church.

Ed
Now that's a reason to celebrate!

Halloween that this country celebrates with costumes of death and demons is what I hate.
 

dcorbett

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Matt Black said:
You obviously don't know your history; the Anabaptists only arose in the 1520s - hardly 'long before' Henry VIII's divorce in 1533.

I know my history quite well, thank you. I wrote a research paper on the Six wives of Henry VIII when I was only 16, and I wrote a paper on Music of the Reformation in England when I was a Junior music major. I also know that the Ana-Baptists sprang from other New Testament believers such as the Paulists who never were affiliated with the papist herecy..... In fact, read this:

"Were it not that the baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past twelve hundred years, they would swarm in greater number than all the Reformers." (Hosius, Letters, Apud Opera, pp. 112, 113.) The "twelve hundred years" were the years preceding the Reformation in which Rome persecuted Baptists with the most cruel persecution thinkable. Sir Isaac Newton: "The Baptists are the only body of known Christians that have never symbolized with Rome."
 

Matt Black

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Then you have been misinformed. The 'Paulists' (sic; I think you meant the Paulicians) were gnostic dualists from whom any self-respecting Baptist should run a mile. I think someone's been imbibing too much of the J M Carroll Kool-Aid...
 

Doubting Thomas

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Matt Black said:
Then you have been misinformed. The 'Paulists' (sic; I think you meant the Paulicians) were gnostic dualists from whom any self-respecting Baptist should run a mile. I think someone's been imbibing too much of the J M Carroll Kool-Aid...

And I'm also pretty sure that Hosius quote has been determined to be a hoax.
 

Matt Black

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Yup. Those who quote him also tend to say he allegedly said it at the Council of Trent - and then go on to give a totally erroneous date for the said Council.

Shows what they (don't) know...
 

Thinkingstuff

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Matt Black said:
You obviously don't know your history; the Anabaptists only arose in the 1520s - hardly 'long before' Henry VIII's divorce in 1533.

Anyway, Reformation Day happily coincides with Halloween, which as good Christians we definitely do not celebrate over here. Instead, I shall have copies of Luther's 95 Theses ready to nail to the head of any child who has the temerity to knock on my door on Friday night demanding candy to remind them forcibly of what the date is really about!

[ETA - over here, in the Church of England, we call it 'Bible Sunday', as a kind of grudging nod towards Luther for making the Scriptures available on a large scale in the vernacular for the first time since the 5th century]

Hey England has strange Holidays like (I don't know what its called comic day maybe) where everything from cars to people wear red noses. Don't jump on us because we celebrate samhein through all saints day eve or all hollows day eve or holloween!
 

Thinkingstuff

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Matt Black said:
Then you have been misinformed. The 'Paulists' (sic; I think you meant the Paulicians) were gnostic dualists from whom any self-respecting Baptist should run a mile. I think someone's been imbibing too much of the J M Carroll Kool-Aid...

That is actually funny.
 

Matt Black

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Thinkingstuff said:
Hey England has strange Holidays like (I don't know what its called comic day maybe) where everything from cars to people wear red noses. Don't jump on us because we celebrate samhein through all saints day eve or all hollows day eve or holloween!
I think you're referring to Comic Relief's Red Nose Day - which is basically a massive nationwide charity fund-raising day complete with a televised all-evening benefit show. There's also Children In Need coming up shortly, which is very similar in concept and execution. They're not holidays though - everyone still has to work!
 

Thinkingstuff

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Matt Black said:
I think you're referring to Comic Relief's Red Nose Day - which is basically a massive nationwide charity fund-raising day complete with a televised all-evening benefit show. There's also Children In Need coming up shortly, which is very similar in concept and execution. They're not holidays though - everyone still has to work!

And so do I on Holloween. (Samhein) BTW do you have food for me or may I take a family member? :laugh:
 
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