Has no Biblical foundation

[JonC]

That's a good way to look at it, can't go wrong with that!

I'm the inquisitive type I want to know all I can know, and then a little more.

But those days seem to be in the past now.

Can't go at it the way I used to. Don't get old Jon, you won't like it.

What I get out of your post is....take notes when you are young.

If you took better notes you could just tell us when everything happened.

 

[Charlie24]

What I get out of your post is....take notes when you are young.

If you took better notes you could just tell us when everything happened.

I can't even tell you what happened with me from day to day.

I think I need one of those body cams so I can watch the video to see what I've been doing.

 

[37818]

Extra Biblical claims versus Biblical claims.

With the Biblical claims we can have a common ground.

The earliest proposed crucifixion date, Julian date 30 AD, Friday April 7.
Sir Isaac Newton's now commonly accepted Julian date 33 AD, Friday April 3.
One of the few Wednesday Julian dates, 30 AD, April 5.

Now our Roman days of the week names are from midnight to midnight.

Jewish calendar dates are in fact from sunset to sunset.

The start of Jewish months is a point disagreement on their alignment with the days of the week. And 30 and 29 day months.

 

[percho]

Thanks to @Jerome I found what I was looking for. A thread called Good Friday from March 19<2018

The following is my post dated April 3
I have stated before I know, no Greek. Therefore one would have to check with the Greek guru members, on the board, as to the correctness of that part covering Luke 24.

Part Seven - Jesus' Three Days And Three Nights Of Entombment And The Resurrection


The following is a post T Cassidy made in the thread
The crucifixion was on the Preparation Day which fell on Wednesday, 14 Nisan, in 31 AD (the only year that fits, astronomically).

His body was taken down as the sabbath (special High Sabbath - first day of passover) was approaching.

He was in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights.

He was gone when the ladies arrived before dawn on Sunday, the first day of the week.

Now, just a bit of simple math.

Sundown Wednesday to sundown Thursday - day 1 (Special Sabbath)

Sundown Thursday to sundown Friday - day 2 (Ladies shopped for burial supplies)

Sundown Friday to sundown Saturday - day 3 (weekly sabbath - ladies couldn't finish the burial process)

He arose after sundown and was gone before sunup Sunday when the ladies arrived to complete the burial process.

 

[Charlie24]

Extra Biblical claims versus Biblical claims.

With the Biblical claims we can have a common ground.

The earliest proposed crucifixion date, Julian date 30 AD, Friday April 7.
Sir Isaac Newton's now commonly accepted Julian date 33 AD, Friday April 3.
One of the few Wednesday Julian dates, 30 AD, April 6.

Now our Roman days of the week names are from midnight to midnight.

Jewish calendar dates are in fact from sunset to sunset.

The start of Jewish months is a point disagreement on their alignment with the days of the week. And 30 and 29 day months.

Thanks to @ Jerome I found what I was looking for. A thread called Good Friday from March 19<2018

The following is my post dated April 3
I have stated before I know, no Greek. Therefore one would have to check with the Greek guru members, on the board, as to the correctness of that part covering Luke 24.

Part Seven - Jesus' Three Days And Three Nights Of Entombment And The Resurrection


The following is a post T Cassidy made in the thread
The crucifixion was on the Preparation Day which fell on Wednesday, 14 Nisan, in 31 AD (the only year that fits, astronomically).

His body was taken down as the sabbath (special High Sabbath - first day of passover) was approaching.

He was in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights.

He was gone when the ladies arrived before dawn on Sunday, the first day of the week.

Now, just a bit of simple math.

Sundown Wednesday to sundown Thursday - day 1 (Special Sabbath)

Sundown Thursday to sundown Friday - day 2 (Ladies shopped for burial supplies)

Sundown Friday to sundown Saturday - day 3 (weekly sabbath - ladies couldn't finish the burial process)

He arose after sundown and was gone before sunup Sunday when the ladies arrived to complete the burial process.

Yep, that's the one I go with. It fulfills all of Scripture accept when Christ met the men on the road and they said "this is the third day since these things happened."

If you use the same method in the Wed. crucifixion to count the days they just don't work out. But this overall is the best suited day in my opinion.

 

[37818]

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Yep, that's the one I go with. It fulfills all of Scripture accept when Christ met the men on the road and they said "this is the third day since these things happened."

If you use the same method in the Wed. crucifixion to count the days they just don't work out. But this overall is the best suited day in my opinion.

My "One of the few Wednesday Julian dates, 30 AD, April 6," was a typo. It was supposed to be "April 5."

Julian date 30 AD, April 6 was the Thursday.

 

[37818]

Just counting days of the week.

* Friday as 1. Saturday then is 2. Sunday becomes 3.
* Thursday as 1. Friday as 2. Saturday is 3.
* Wednesday as 1. Thursday is 2. Friday is 3.

* Friday as zero. Saturday would then be 1. Sunday becomes 2.
* Thursday as zero. Friday as 1. Saturday as 2. Sunday becomes 3.
* Wednesday as zero. Thursday as 1. Friday as 2. Saturday as 3. Sunday becomes day 4.

Ref Luke 24:20-21.

 

[percho]

Yep, that's the one I go with. It fulfills all of Scripture accept when Christ met the men on the road and they said "this is the third day since these things happened."

If you use the same method in the Wed. crucifixion to count the days they just don't work out. But this overall is the best suited day in my opinion.

Read the long post dealing with Luke 24:21 it explains that the meaning is the third day is totally past. It passed at the evening of the first day of the week.

 

[Charlie24]

Read the long post dealing with Luke 24:21 it explains that the meaning is the third day is totally past. It passed at the evening of the first day of the week.

It's taken so many ways you can't argue it, or at least I don't.

 

[JonC]

The earliest proposed crucifixion date, Julian date 30 AD, Friday April 7.
Sir Isaac Newton's now commonly accepted Julian date 33 AD, Friday April 3.
One of the few Wednesday Julian dates, 30 AD, April 5.

Now our Roman days of the week names are from midnight to midnight.

Jewish calendar dates are in fact from sunset to sunset.

The start of Jewish months is a point disagreement on their alignment with the days of the week. And 30 and 29 day months.

I agree that the above are extra-biblical claims. The Bible does not authorize the use of a calculated calendar. The Bible also does not set the counting of a day by sunset to sunset.

This is why you have so many differences.

The Temple day was dawn to dawn. The year was by observance rather than calculation (calculation was slowly introduced but became the criteria centuries after the Resurrection).

Now....can we pretend that modern Judiasm accurately reflects ancient Jewish practices?Yes. We can pretend anything. But that does not make it real.

Does it make your conclusions wrong? No. They could be right. But they are not factual (they could equally be wrong).

The danger only comes in when such ignorance causes people to think that there is error in Scripture. Or if you were teaching history.

 

[37818]

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The Bible also does not set the counting of a day by sunset to sunset.

Exodus 12:18, In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even.

 

[37818]

The Temple day was dawn to dawn.

Please give this Bible reference.

 

[37818]

@JonC,
I am persuaded the crucifixion date is Bibliclly knowable.