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Featured Has Theology Died?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Jan 21, 2021.

  1. timtofly

    timtofly Well-Known Member

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    There is currently no authority to force a nation to do anything. Not even to keep some law set up by God Himself. The principle may be biblical, but there is currently no application. Unless you consider Islam, which is allegedly both a spiritual and civil authority. But that is still man made rule, and not some God given authority. Attempting to force the civil rule even according to the church's binding authority is still not about control of a nation. There is still the firm separation between what the church does and what a civil authority can do. Even if the church was the entire civil population, there has to be the separation of power. Since being in the church is a free conscious decision, not a birth right, it is entirely different than being born the citizen of a nation. Unless one understands this point, attempting to marry church and state will never work. It would be a dismal failure. That is the whole reason the US is in the wicked state it is currently in.
     
  2. Noah Hirsch

    Noah Hirsch Active Member

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    I acknowledge that we should not confuse the civil government with the church. The role of church and state is not to be confounded. The nature of church and state is not to be confounded. The nature of the government of the church is not to be confounded with the nature of the government of the commonwealth. But both the church and the state are under God who is sovereign over all. Are you aware of Kuypterianism, common grace, the distinction between common grace and particular or saving grace, and the distinction between the various spheres of life all of which Christ is sovereign over? We should also recognize that we cannot produce perfect justice in our nation, though there is nothing wrong with seeking to reform some evils according to one’s place and calling. This is rooted in common grace.
     
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