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HCQ back in the news after study shows it works

Scott Downey

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Scott Downey

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New Study Makes Discovery About Controversial Drug Hydroxychloroquine (westernjournal.com)
Reduced the number of people being hospitalized by a significant amount in the US with no side effect.

The drug was used in the early months of the pandemic as clinicians were desperate to help patients.

Physicians throughout the Hackensack Meridian Health system reported that of over 100 people who received the drug from March to mid-May, one in five ended up in the hospital.

Do you think this drug was only questioned because Trump said it would work?
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One in three people who did not receive the drug were hospitalized.
Ip added that there are also no reports of cardiac arrhythmia after using the drug, which is a potential side effect.

“I’ve gotten messages from doctors saying [the study] supports what they are seeing in their clinics,” he said.
 

church mouse guy

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American doctors lost prestige for their political message. The French led the way on this medicine in the west. The Nigerians led the way in Africa.
 

Scott Downey

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American doctors lost prestige for their political message. The French led the way on this medicine in the west. The Nigerians led the way in Africa.
Fauci and his medical group are responsible for Covid, not only the creation of the virus in China Wuhan, but also the epidemic he caused, he made it worse.

Biden by executive order has outlawed calling it the china virus.‍
 

Scott Downey

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I call it the China virus so I suppose that Biden will send the FBI for me in the dead of the night.
You are being watched. What you say goes right back to government organizations if you use interconnected technologies of big tech.
Do you think the smart phones are listening all the time for key words? They are never off unless the battery is dead. Maybe even turning it off is not off.
I have an Echo Show 8, and recently found all conversations with the device are recorded and stored on Amazon servers. It is constantly listening, and it has a camera.
 

church mouse guy

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I think that we should call it the Biden virus. Thousands of people have died of the virus since Biden took office. He said that he had a plan. Why did he say that he had a plan when he didn’t have a plan?
 

Guvnuh

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Oh my! Uncle Joe is so sensitive. It just moves my heart. Gushy gushy..mushy mushy.

Guess we'll have to rename:

• West Nile Virus
Named after the West Nile District of Uganda discovered in 1937.
• Guinea Worm
Named by European explorers for the Guinea coast of West Africa in the 1600s.
• Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
Named after the mountain range spreading across western North America first recognized first in 1896 in Idaho.
• Lyme Disease
Named after a large outbreak of the disease occurred in Lyme and Old Lyme, Connecticut in the 1970s.
• Ross River Fever
Named after a mosquito found to cause the disease in the Ross River of Queensland, Australia by the 1960s. The first major outbreak occurred in 1928.
• Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Named after its 1940s discovery in Omsk, Russia.
• Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever
Named in 1976 for the Ebola River in Zaire located in central Africa.
• Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS)
Also known as “camel flu,” MERS was first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012 and all cases are linked to those who traveled to the Middle Eastern peninsula.
• Valley Fever
Valley Fever earned its nickname from a 1930s outbreak San Joaquin Valley of California, though its first case came from Argentina.
• Marburg Virus Disease
Named after Marburg, Germany in 1967.
• Norovirus
Named after Norwalk, Ohio after an outbreak in 1968.
• Zika Fever
First discovered in 1947 and named after the Zika Forest in Uganda.
• Japanese Encephalitis
Named after its first case in Japan in 1871.
• German Measles
Named after the German doctors who first described it in the 18th century. The disease is also sometimes referred to as “Rubella.”
• Spanish Flu
While the true origins of the Spanish Flu remain unknown, the disease earned its name after Spain began to report deaths from the flu in its newspapers.
• Lassa Fever
Named after the being found in Lassa, Nigeria in 1969.
• Legionnaire’s Disease
Named in 1976 following an outbreak of people contracting the lung infection after attending an American Legion convention in Philadelphia.
 

Guvnuh

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While we're at it, we can renaming Disease after the scientist that discovered/found a disease:

1. Crohn’s disease
Crohn got the first choice among his fellow researchers to have this inflammatory disease to be named after. The disease was discovered in 1932 by three NY based physicians. However, Burill Bernard Crohn was the first author of the paper and thus the disease was named after him.
2. Salmonellosis
Daniel Salmon never thought that his name would be associated with the deadly Salmonella that causes the Salmonellosis. Theobald Smith who was in the research team of Daniel Elmer Salmon in the year 1885 discovered the Salmonella. However, the teammates decided to honor the boss and named that pathogen after his name.
3. Parkinson’s disease
Parkinson was a learned fellow who was master of multiple languages and various streams of science. He was active in politics and his name figured in a group of people alleged to be behind the assassination plot of King George III. However, after that brief turmoil, his focus shifted to medicine where he published a paper on Shaking Palsy that was named after him in 1817 as Parkinson’s disease.
4. Huntington’s disease
George Huntington was an average researcher with excellent reputation. In 1872, Huntington graduated from medical school and published a paper on a specific neurodegenerative hereditary disorder. The disease is named after him.
5. Alzheimer’s disease
This disease created quite a furor when film makers made some classics out it. However, the disease got its name from the Alois Alzheimer who was studying a patient with memory disorder in a Frankfurt asylum. Alzheimer dissected the patient’s brain after her death and presented the serious disease that is now named after him.
6. Tourette syndrome
 

Guvnuh

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Tourette never thought that the neurodegenerative disorder will be named after him. He named it Maladie Des Tics, but the Supervisor of Tourette thought otherwise and named that hard-pronounced disease as Tourette syndrome. Tourette was never successful in treating this disease and got even shot in his head by a suffering patient. However, he survived and so is his name after the disease.
7. Hodgkin’s lymphoma
Thomas Hodgkin of Britain first identified the lymphoma in 1832 in his studies on spleen and glands. The disease was categorized as cancerous melanoma but Samuel Wilks rediscovered the disease and named it after the original discoverer.
8. Bright’s disease
The disease is no eye disease. The disease was actually named after Richard Bright who discovered this kidney disease in 1927. The disease was later found to be bunch of smaller diseases, so the name is rarely used nowadays.
9. Addison’s disease
Thomas Addison was colleague of Bright and Hodgkins. He discovered the Addison’s disease in 1855. The disease is an Adrenal gland disorder. The Guy’s hospital has a big place in medical history as founder hospital of so many diseases.
10. Tay-Sachs disease
In 1881, Warren Tay was a British Ophthalmologist, who first discovered the disease with red spots on eye’s retina. Bernard Sachs, who in 1887 found the root cause of the disease, further researched the disease. The medical community however decided to give commemoration to both Tay and Sachs for their useful contribution and named the disease after both of them.
11. Turner syndrome
Turner Syndrome is a genetic chromosomal disorder. In the year 1938, Henry Turner first identified the disease and found the root cause behind it. Later, the condition was named after him for his useful contribution in identifying the disorder.
12. Klinefelter’s syndrome
Harry Klinefelter, an endocrinologist from Boston identified the genetic disorder of men having a pair of X chromosomes with Y chromosome. Later the disease was named after him with the efforts of his mentor Dr. Fuller Albright.
13. Asperger’s syndrome
Autism is a serious disease among children. However, the founder of the disease, Hans Asperger never got any recognition as his work was mostly in German. The recognition came in 1981 when the work was redrafted and published in English. He studied nearly 400 children to identify the disease.
 

Gold Dragon

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Here is the AMJ article talked about in the first post which not a study at all but a proposal for a protocol for treating patients before they need hospitalization or early in hospitalization with drugs like HCQ. It references previous studies to support its position, the most recent for HCQ from July 2020. So no new data

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)30673-2/fulltext
The currently completed retrospective studies and randomized trials have generally shown these findings: 1) when started late in the hospital course and for short durations of time, antimalarials appear to be ineffective, 2) when started earlier in the hospital course, for progressively longer durations and in outpatients, antimalarials may reduce the progression of disease, prevent hospitalization, and are associated with reduced mortality.
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Although asymptomatic QT prolongation is a well-recognized and infrequent (<1%) complication of HCQ, it is possible that in the setting of acute illness symptomatic arrhythmias could develop.
 

Gold Dragon

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Here is the article referenced in the 2nd post which is an article from BMC Infectious Disease publishing data from Hackensack Meridian Health. It was a retrospective study looking at mildly symptomatic out of hospital patients. Here is the abstract.

Hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of outpatients with mildly symptomatic COVID-19: a multi-center observational study

Background: Hydroxychloroquine has not been associated with improved survival among hospitalized COVID-19 patients in the majority of observational studies and similarly was not identified as an effective prophylaxis following exposure in a prospective randomized trial. We aimed to explore the role of hydroxychloroquine therapy in mildly symptomatic patients diagnosed in the outpatient setting.
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Results: Among 1274 outpatients with documented SARS-CoV-2 infection 7.6% were prescribed hydroxychloroquine. In a 1067 patient propensity matched cohort, 21.6% with outpatient exposure to hydroxychloroquine were hospitalized, and 31.4% without exposure were hospitalized. In the primary multivariable logistic regression analysis with propensity matching there was an association between exposure to hydroxychloroquine and a decreased rate of hospitalization from COVID-19 (OR 0.53; 95% CI, 0.29, 0.95). Sensitivity analyses revealed similar associations. QTc prolongation events occurred in 2% of patients prescribed hydroxychloroquine with no reported arrhythmia events among those with data available. (Continued on next page)

Of the 97 patients that received HCQ compared to the 1177 that didn't, there was a lower percentage that went to hospital but a higher percentage that developed arrythmia.

This is their conclusion:
In conclusion, hydroxychloroquine exposure among outpatients with mildly symptomatic COVID-19 was associated with a reduction in hospitalization rates from disease progression in this multi-center observational cohort. Further external validation of this finding is required. Although use of hydroxychloroquine in this outpatient population outside the context of a clinical trial cannot be recommended, our study suggests that additional evaluations of hydroxychloroquine are needed in this mildly symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infected population.
 

Gold Dragon

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Here is the Biden executive order about federal actions and documents pertaining to Covid19 and Asian Americans.

Memorandum Condemning and Combating Racism, Xenophobia, and Intolerance Against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders in the United States | The White House

(b) Executive departments and agencies (agencies) shall take all appropriate steps to ensure that official actions, documents, and statements, including those that pertain to the COVID-19 pandemic, do not exhibit or contribute to racism, xenophobia, and intolerance against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. Agencies may consult with public health experts, AAPI community leaders, or AAPI community-serving organizations, or may refer to any best practices issued pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, to ensure an understanding of the needs and challenges faced by AAPI communities.
 

church mouse guy

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Biden is so Stalinesque in his attention to the great reset, which he calls build back better from Boris Johnson. He is a devotee of Davos and the leader Klaus Schwab, another George Soros but with even better German credentials. So it is no surprise that Biden grovels at the feet of Xi Jinping, who has given Biden and his son tens of millions of dollars in business deals. How else could Biden have 5 mansions on a government paycheck? Of course, Biden got his start on Russian money through the DC Soviet lobby Council For A Livable World.
 
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