Healing Testimony

[rockytopva]

Someone posted this earlier today…

William Rodriguez
3 hours ago
I never got to tell Bro. Shambach this. But when I was about 12 years old, I went to his tent revival in Ft Lauderdale Florida and after seeing all the healings, went to my neighbour's next door. He was a Baptist man dying of cancer. I asked him if he would mind if I asked Shambach to pray for him, he said ok. So I went back to the tent. I didn't know you couldn't just go up to Shambach and ask for prayer during the prayer line. I went on the line about 3 times and every time I reached him, I was drenched in olive oil and pushed through the line. I was soaking wet cause he would just dip his hand in a bucket of oil and slap you on the forehead with it! After the service I thought I'd try to ask him again. But during the dismissal prayer he had slipped out. I was just devastated. I was at the altar crying when there was a noise by the back curtain. I looked up and it was him getting his bible. I called out to him and told him about my neighbour and he prayed a short and simple prayer. And I said, is that it? He said, "yes that's it" Is he healed? He asked, "do you believe? cause all things are possible to them that believe." I said, I believed. I went to my neighbour's and told him he was healed. And you know what? He got up out of that deathbed and was healed! To God be the glory. Today I'm a Missionary and pastor.

 

[canadyjd]

Someone posted this earlier today…

William Rodriguez
3 hours ago
I never got to tell Bro. Shambach this. But when I was about 12 years old, I went to his tent revival in Ft Lauderdale Florida and after seeing all the healings, went to my neighbour's next door. He was a Baptist man dying of cancer. I asked him if he would mind if I asked Shambach to pray for him, he said ok. So I went back to the tent. I didn't know you couldn't just go up to Shambach and ask for prayer during the prayer line. I went on the line about 3 times and every time I reached him, I was drenched in olive oil and pushed through the line. I was soaking wet cause he would just dip his hand in a bucket of oil and slap you on the forehead with it! After the service I thought I'd try to ask him again. But during the dismissal prayer he had slipped out. I was just devastated. I was at the altar crying when there was a noise by the back curtain. I looked up and it was him getting his bible. I called out to him and told him about my neighbour and he prayed a short and simple prayer. And I said, is that it? He said, "yes that's it" Is he healed? He asked, "do you believe? cause all things are possible to them that believe." I said, I believed. I went to my neighbour's and told him he was healed. And you know what? He got up out of that deathbed and was healed! To God be the glory. Today I'm a Missionary and pastor.

I am skeptical of faith healers like this and stories from decades passed with no way to confirm the truth of it.

Just saying, people lie

peace to you

 

[rockytopva]

No power in skepticism!

54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. - Matthew 13

 

[canadyjd]

No power in skepticism!

54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. - Matthew 13

His testimony makes no sense. He claims the man with cancer was healed by the faith healer while he (12 yr old boy) was at the “revival” and the sick man was home in bed.

And yet, the sick man, home in bed didn’t realize he was healed until the 12 yr old boy went to his house and told him he was healed. Only then did he get up from his bed.

Sounds like a smelly pile of cow pie to me… just saying…. People lie.

peace to you

 

[rockytopva]

I do not believe man has the power of healing in himself. Any healing is done, "And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all." - Acts 3:16

 

[canadyjd]

I do not believe man has the power of healing in himself. Any healing is done, "And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all." - Acts 3:16

Of course that is correct and I do not discount the possibility of miraculous healings taking place even today.

Let me give you an example. Heavy weight boxing champion Evander Holyfield was diagnosed with a heart condition that forced him into retirement. He went to a Benny Hinn revival and was healed. Doctors confirmed he no longer had the heart condition and decided Holyfield had been misdiagnosed. He continued to fight for many years.

Now, I believe Benny Hinn is a fraud and a heretic and there is no way he had anything to do with this miracle. However, Holyfield had demonstrated love for God and faith in Christ, so I give credence that this could be a genuine miracle, confirmed by medical professionals (though they claimed he was misdiagnosed)

I’ll just say again, people lie about these kinds of things and this particular story of the OP sounds phony.

peace to you

 

[rockytopva]

Of course that is correct and I do not discount the possibility of miraculous healings taking place even today.

Let me give you an example. Heavy weight boxing champion Evander Holyfield was diagnosed with a heart condition that forced him into retirement. He went to a Benny Hinn revival and was healed. Doctors confirmed he no longer had the heart condition and decided Holyfield had been misdiagnosed. He continued to fight for many years.

Now, I believe Benny Hinn is a fraud and a heretic and there is no way he had anything to do with this miracle. However, Holyfield had demonstrated love for God and faith in Christ, so I give credence that this could be a genuine miracle, confirmed by medical professionals (though they claimed he was misdiagnosed)

I’ll just say again, people lie about these kinds of things and this particular story of the OP sounds phony.

peace to you

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. - 1 John 5:4

I am white, with tough luck going in, of Scottish descent, and at one time a very negative guy. In the 1990's our factory hired several VT football players who were all black and of Word of Faith doctrine. In all my years of knowing these guys I have never once heard the first negative word out of their mouth, everything they spoke was faith. They took a liking to me and called me, "McCwowt" and would say things like...

"Do you know what over comes fear McCwowt? Action! Action overcomes fear"

"I'm getting out of here McCwowt" And then lay out some plan of escape. They would also come to me asking...

"What are you believing God for McCwowt?" And expect some great plan that would bring joy to their hearts. They were all brought up Word of Faith and I understand why they won the Peach Bowl back in 1986 as they were all faith talkers. They were very schooled in the Word of Faith. If you had any pains at all they would offer to pray for you right then and there. They also broke me of my negative talk and for that I am eternally grateful.

I ended up getting two AAS degrees Magna Cum Laude and worked my way up to Lab Technician. How does one deal with immense doubt? I would recommend cutting ones teeth on Word of Faith doctrine... Moving on once the faith is in place.

 

[Marooncat79]

Word of faith is Apostate

notice that I did not call it Christianity

 

[rockytopva]

Word of faith is Apostate

notice that I did not call it Christianity

Not according to the Bible I read...

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:8-9

 

[JesusFan]

Not according to the Bible I read...

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:8-9

Word of faith doctrines are the doctrines of demons, as all of the main teachers in that Movement teach and hold to outright heresies!

 

[JesusFan]

Word of faith is Apostate

notice that I did not call it Christianity

indeed, as those holding to its main teachings are holding to doctrines of demons!

 

[rockytopva]

When we had a plating department in our facility I worked myself up to Lab Technician and worked under a chemist. This chemist was very smart and very good at math. When he laid out equations he did so in very neat handwriting and there would be much activity as he turned the results of an analysis into an addition. I would take his calculations and put them in the form of visual basic functions and sub procedures.

Of all the years I worked with this man I had one opportunity to witness to him. I made my presentation while he was analyzing adhesion under a microscope in which you could hear the sounds... Scratch, scratch, scratch! Scratch scratch, scratch! After my presentation he just continued to look under the microscope as if ignored everything I said so I just continued in my work. Then... The scratch scratch, scratching stopped! And he speaks!

"You know what I think it is?" He says while continuing to look under the microscope... "I think it is arrogance!"

And then, without taking his eyes off the microscope, he continues his work... Scratch, scratch, scratch! Scratch scratch, scratch! I did not reply but went about my work. Inside I feared he was right.

Which is why I do not promote any certain organization here. It is possible to be doctrinally correct and a terrible person!

 

[JesusFan]

When we had a plating department in our facility I worked myself up to Lab Technician and worked under a chemist. This chemist was very smart and very good at math. When he laid out equations he did so in very neat handwriting and there would be much activity as he turned the results of an analysis into an addition. I would take his calculations and put them in the form of visual basic functions and sub procedures.

Of all the years I worked with this man I had one opportunity to witness to him. I made my presentation while he was analyzing adhesion under a microscope in which you could hear the sounds... Scratch, scratch, scratch! Scratch scratch, scratch! After my presentation he just continued to look under the microscope as if ignored everything I said so I just continued in my work. Then... The scratch scratch, scratching stopped! And he speaks!

"You know what I think it is?" He says while continuing to look under the microscope... "I think it is arrogance!"

And then, without taking his eyes off the microscope, he continues his work... Scratch, scratch, scratch! Scratch scratch, scratch! I did not reply but went about my work. Inside I feared he was right.

Which is why I do not promote any certain organization here. It is possible to be doctrinally correct and a terrible person!

Word of faith is FAR from doctrinal correct!

 

[JesusFan]

Not according to the Bible I read...

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:8-9

None of us are saying do not trust in the Lord, but we do not place faith in our faith as wof does!

 

[rockytopva]

None of us are saying do not trust in the Lord, but we do not place faith in our faith as wof does!

I believe the church exists in seven congregations...

Ephesus- Messianic
Smyrna- Foxes has the Roman persecutions as ten
Pergamos- Orthodox
Thyatira - Catholic
Sardis- Protestantism
Philadelphia- Wesleyism
Laodicean- Materialistic

The Sardis church has a name as though they are alive... But... And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. - Revelation 3:1-3

 

[JesusFan]

I believe the church exists in seven congregations...

Ephesus- Messianic
Smyrna- Foxes has the Roman persecutions as ten
Pergamos- Orthodox
Thyatira - Catholic
Sardis- Protestantism
Philadelphia- Wesleyism
Laodicean- Materialistic

The Sardis church has a name as though they are alive... But... And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. - Revelation 3:1-3

Those 7 churches were real ones at time of John, and we are not to see them as you do here!

 

[rockytopva]

Those 7 churches were real ones at time of John, and we are not to see them as you do here!

Then it is no mystery!

The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.- Revelation 1:20

 

[rockytopva]

I believe the basic church congregations as seven...

Candlesticks - Seven church congregations - The seven churches - Revelations 1:20
Stars - Individuals within the congregations, all held in the right hand of Christ
Seals - The seven seals sealed each congregation within the lambs book of life

So I believe the church congregations as seven and Christ walks in the midst of all of us. This forms one church, but there are many differences among us...

Messianic - The original church
Martyr - Oriental church beginning with Paul
Pergamos - Orthodox church beginning at Constantinople
Thyatira - Catholic church beginning at Rome
Sardis - Protestant church beginning in Germany
Philadelphia - Revived church beginning in England
Laodicean - Materialistic church beginning in America