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Nice try DHK, that must have taken you a while.

Strictly music.

Of course music can be a vehicle for sin when the message is evil.That is what I have been saying all along

Music my friend, the challenge is to show that there is such a thing a music with no singing that can be inherently sinful.

That means that no matter what words were sung to it, it would still be sinful.

[ July 01, 2002, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

Lies lies lies, and more lies.Nowhere in the Bible is music ever described as inherently sinful, or sensual or anything of the sort.You are manufacturing your case out of a false unscriptural presupposition.As you can see, Paul never once in any way makes a moral comparison or judgement about music in any capacity.You might as well write it in the Bible with your own hands, because it isn't there!How many times does that have to be said until you acknowledge the truth.

Stop the lies, stop the judgement.

[ July 01, 2002, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: Odemus ]

 

By the way, my name is Jacob.

 

You post that which defeats your own argument:

"When you listen to what I’m playing, you got to see in your mind all them gals out there swinging their butts and getting the mens excited. Otherwise you ain’t got this music rightly understood. I could sit there and throw my hands down and make them gals do anything. I told them when to shake it and when to hold it back. That’s what this music is for."

If the sensuality in the music was innate why would he need to tell him to make the association?Wouldn't that imagery be self evident?The sin resides in the heart, not the music.

Your logic will always fall flat on it's face because it is not based on Scripture.

Oh yeah, Shaman's use the drum because it is inherently evil, not because it provides the most basic element of music...rhythm .Once again you fail to see, the sin is in the heart, not the pounding of a drum-which by the way isn't even music.

When will you acknowledge that the basis of yor argument is in the 'wisdom' of man, and has nothing to do with Scripture?

Stop the lies, stop the judgement.

 

As for the post in which you ask me to concede the point about the history lesson..there isn't anything to concede, history is history, what do the sinful actions of men have to do with your unscriptural claim that certain music is inherently sinful?You're in a desperate situation here, stop reaching out to thin air, and reach for your Bible.

It's like saying that the worship of an idol invokes power in and of iself.It doesn't! When your heart is given to sin and sensuality the devil holds the power over you!Not the reverse.When the Isrealites worshipped the golden calf in song, they weren't invoking a power of any kind! The power was already there in control of their hearts and minds!

 

A command to associate the music with sensuality.

The conclusion being that if you don't associate the music with sensuality, then you don't understand the music.

So answer this question.Why make the distinction between understanding and not understanding if the sensuality is plainly evident?

The truth of the Scriptures are eternally unchanging and have been established by God as a standard by which all men are accountable.The statements of man outside the Scriptures are irrelevant because they try to create their own standards, much like you with regard to this Pharisaical belief that certain types of music can be inherently sinful.

Let the 'folks' reading this post speak for themselves, I am not so insecure in myself that I need to bring other people into this debate.I wonder why you should be?

Stop the lies, stop the judgement, stick to Scripture.