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Heaven or Hell which one will you choose?

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InTheLight

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He has gone from:

1. Open air preaching to strangers on street corners.

2. Anonymously placing tracts under windshield wipers of cars.

3. Writing letters and making phone calls to pastors of "false churches".

4. Preaching to the non-elect members of Baptist Board.

(Just making an observation.)
 

PreachTony

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Yes as there are degrees of punishment in hell, just as there are degrees of reward in heaven.

Come on, evan...several people have asked and re-asked the same question. You cannot throw out some statement like the one above and just hope people accept it.

Where, in the scripture, are we told that there are degrees of reward in Heaven and degrees of punishment in Hell?

Consider this parable:
Matthew 20:1-16 said:
For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.
And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.
So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,
Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

To my interpretation of that scripture, if someone were saved on their deathbed and never had opportunity to work for the Lord, they have the same reward as me, even though I was saved at ten years old, announced my call to preach in my early 20s, and have tried to labor for the Lord for the better part of fifteen years so far.

And I have no problem with that. The last verse, stating the last shall be first, and the first last, reveals to us the level ground of Heaven.
 

evangelist6589

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Come on, evan...several people have asked and re-asked the same question. You cannot throw out some statement like the one above and just hope people accept it.



Where, in the scripture, are we told that there are degrees of reward in Heaven and degrees of punishment in Hell?



Consider this parable:





To my interpretation of that scripture, if someone were saved on their deathbed and never had opportunity to work for the Lord, they have the same reward as me, even though I was saved at ten years old, announced my call to preach in my early 20s, and have tried to labor for the Lord for the better part of fifteen years so far.



And I have no problem with that. The last verse, stating the last shall be first, and the first last, reveals to us the level ground of Heaven.


God is Just and Fair. Obviously the Anti Christ and the false prophet will have a hotter hell than the moral and ethical Mormon whom rejected Christ. The same for Rewards in Heaven because at the Bema judgment our works will be tested and some will receive greater rewards than others
 

webdog

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Come on, evan...several people have asked and re-asked the same question. You cannot throw out some statement like the one above and just hope people accept it.

Where, in the scripture, are we told that there are degrees of reward in Heaven and degrees of punishment in Hell?

Consider this parable:


To my interpretation of that scripture, if someone were saved on their deathbed and never had opportunity to work for the Lord, they have the same reward as me, even though I was saved at ten years old, announced my call to preach in my early 20s, and have tried to labor for the Lord for the better part of fifteen years so far.

And I have no problem with that. The last verse, stating the last shall be first, and the first last, reveals to us the level ground of Heaven.

"Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town."

http://carm.org/hell-sin
 

PreachTony

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God is Just and Fair. Obviously the Anti Christ and the false prophet will have a hotter hell than the moral and ethical Mormon whom rejected Christ. The same for Rewards in Heaven because at the Bema judgment our works will be tested and some will receive greater rewards than others

As an offshoot of this topic, though something I think pertinent to our discussion, do you believe people will be more or less emotionally autonomous in Heaven?

I ask this because people have a tendency to see someone with more than they have, and they get jealous. If we retain that emotional nature in Heaven, then you have the potential for envy and jealousy in the Heavenly realm. If not, then we're talking about God stripping away emotion, basically rendering us as not much more than puppets or robots.
 

webdog

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Well, at least someone can provide scripture. Hard to reason out the scriptures when the person making the claim doesn't use them....
I can't speak for him, but maybe its because he assumes people know these texts that allude to this belief.
 

Dr. Bob

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And I am shutting this. Want to start a new thread? Degrees of reward in heaven or degrees of punishment in hell?

Just don't imply BB members will burn or you will be cast into outer darkness :)
 
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