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Hebrews 2:3 those who didn't author Hebrews.

Zaatar71

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Paul wrote this; Gal.1
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
 

Dr. Bob

Administrator
Administrator
1. Written by Jew, in style of Levite = Paul was Jew of Benjamin
2. Written in Alexandrian style under Philo = Paul was Athenian style under Gamaliel
3. Written with no name/salutation of authority = Paul always (his word) used name/salutation of authority
4. Quotation from Greek Septuagint = Paul quoted from Hebrew
5. When referring to God it says "He hath said" = Paul used, "It is written"
6. Contains little NT doctrine = Paul's writing contains 95% of NT doctrine
7. Centers on OT and function of High Priest 17 times as type of Christ = Paul never used High Priest once
8. Written as exhortation = Paul wrote only letters
9. Written in unique style, unparalleled in NT = Paul's letter are all the same style/vocabulary/structure
10. Written as disciple of the apostles who gave writer the message = Paul was NOT a disciple of the apostles (Gal 1)

BTW, Barnabas fills all 10 of these points exactly. Apollos, Timothy, et al, do not
 

37818

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David Alan Black
(2013). The Authorship of Hebrews: The Case for Paul. Topical line drives. Vol. 1. Gonzalez, FL: Energerion Press. ISBN 9781938434730. OCLC 859384096.
 

KJB1611reader

Active Member
Paul is taking to Jews not Gentiles; of course the wording will be different.

Second, not same audience and timeframe.

Third: John Owen and others already disproven Lxx in Hebrews.

John Owen already debunked Barnabus as the author.

Shawn
 

David Lamb

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Paul wrote it

There is no use oF LXX.
How can you be so certain? In all epistles that we know are by Paul, he begins by introducing himself by name. Hebrews just starts:

“God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;” (Heb 1:1-2 NKJV)
 

KJB1611reader

Active Member
How can you be so certain? In all epistles that we know are by Paul, he begins by introducing himself by name. Hebrews just starts:

“God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;” (Heb 1:1-2 NKJV)
Since he addressing Jews. To avoid them rejecting this letter.
 

David Lamb

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Paulautthor.
You can coin a new word, Paulauthor, but that does not prove that Paul wrote Hebrews. I am not saying he didn't; I am just saying that we are not told. That is why there are firm, bible-believing Christians who believe that Paul didn't write Hebrews, and other firm, bible-believing Christians who believe that he did.
 

KJB1611reader

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You can coin a new word, Paulauthor, but that does not prove that Paul wrote Hebrews. I am not saying he didn't; I am just saying that we are not told. That is why there are firm, bible-believing Christians who believe that Paul didn't write Hebrews, and other firm, bible-believing Christians who believe that he did.
Its in manuscripts.... also, it said Paul to the Hebrews. Second: Timothy wrote it.
 

David Lamb

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Its in manuscripts.... also, it said Paul to the Hebrews. Second: Timothy wrote it.
Which manuscripts? How to you know that Timothy wrote it? You often seem to state certain things without giving any evidence to back it up. I'm not being rude, just that it seems that way to me. For example, you just say, "Timothy wrote it." No evidence, no source of information.
 

KJB1611reader

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Which manuscripts? How to you know that Timothy wrote it? You often seem to state certain things without giving any evidence to back it up. I'm not being rude, just that it seems that way to me. For example, you just say, "Timothy wrote it." No evidence, no source of information.
I did a post on it.
 

David Lamb

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I did a post on it.
I have just looked through all your posts in this thread, and I see that you have mentioned before that you believe Timothy wrote Hebrews. In post 16 you wrote: "No, Timothy wrote it." Your wrote similarly in some other posts. But you haven't said which manuscripts say that Paul wrote Hebrews, nor have you said how you can be so sure that Timothy wrote it. (I assume when you say that Timothy wrote it, you mean that he acted as a secretary for Paul.)
 

KJB1611reader

Active Member
I have just looked through all your posts in this thread, and I see that you have mentioned before that you believe Timothy wrote Hebrews. In post 16 you wrote: "No, Timothy wrote it." Your wrote similarly in some other posts. But you haven't said which manuscripts say that Paul wrote Hebrews, nor have you said how you can be so sure that Timothy wrote it. (I assume when you say that Timothy wrote it, you mean that he acted as a secretary for Paul.)
Hello,

This will my last comment on this issue: I think I made a thread on the old account.

I am sure Timothy wrote it as its in the colophon at the end of the Pauline Epistle.

Shawn
 
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