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herd immunity is the smarter approach....and most compassionate

Deacon

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So do we begin to open areas?

The answer is “with caution”

Begin opening businesses in areas with low incidence of disease. Carefully observe the response and be ready to react.

Schools can wait until next semester if things improve.

Rob
 

InTheLight

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Okay the 15 days are over, now believe the science on this.

1. Children are the least likely to get this, so it's time to open up the schools.

Sure, with only 2 weeks left in the school year, let's open up and have children mingle with others then go home to mom and dad.



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Calminian

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...School children are great vectors for infection of parents; working parents - co-workers, etc. Daily interaction between school children insures most in each class will be infected if one child gets it.

Rob

Recent studies are suggesting children actually don't infect adults. Another bizarre attribute of this virus. Perhaps because children are already so immune they kill it before they spread it.
 

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InTheLight

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Wow. Whoda thunk this would happen.

No Virus Spike in Places Reopening
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/05/17/azar-no-spike-in-coronavirus-in-places-reopening/
Azar: ’Everything Doesn’t Depend on Vaccine’


Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said there has been no spike in coronavirus cases in the states that are reopening.​

My guess is, it has everything to do with the sun, but since Trump mentioned it, we can't say that.
Since the incubation time is 2 to 14 days maybe we should wait until June 1st and see if cases increase.

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Calminian

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Since the incubation time is 2 to 14 days maybe we should wait until June 1st and see if cases increase.

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Keep your fingers crossed, I guess. Maybe some terminally ill patients will contract it.
 

InTheLight

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Keep your fingers crossed, I guess. Maybe some terminally ill patients will contract it.
I don't understand the snarkiness. Your insinuation that I want to see more people die is repulsive.

I'm all for opening up the economy. I've said so on this board plenty of times and said it fairly early.

It's too early to declare victory. Also, each state, city, and rural community is different so just because certain areas have had success does not mean it's safe to open up everywhere.

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Calminian

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I don't understand the snarkiness. Your insinuation that I want to see more people die is repulsive.

I'm all for opening up the economy. I've said so on this board plenty of times and said it fairly early.

It's too early to declare victory. Also, each state, city, and rural community is different so just because certain areas have had success does not mean it's safe to open up everywhere.

Relax. It's usually you guys that are accusing everyone else of wanting death. I'm using sarcasm and irony.
 

InTheLight

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Relax. It's usually you guys that are accusing everyone else of wanting death. I'm using sarcasm and irony.

Please show me where I accused anyone of wanting someone to die.

I have pointed out numerous times that the death rate is not the relevant statistic.
I have pointed out numerous times that Covid-19 is not the same as the flu.
 

Calminian

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Here's one article that goes into a little bit.


No one will go as far to say children cannot carry and transmit, but it appears the incidence is very low. My guess is because children crush this thing very fast.

The irony in all this is, kids might be the real secret weapon against this virus. This may be why opened states seem to be have such great success. Kids are now able to play and spread antibodies. The last thing this virus wants is to run into kids.
 

Calminian

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Please show me where I accused anyone of wanting someone to die.

I have pointed out numerous times that the death rate is not the relevant statistic.
I have pointed out numerous times that Covid-19 is not the same as the flu.

I really have no desire to sift through posts to see if you ever personally accused us of wanting to throw grandma under the bus. I'll have to take your word. Hopefully, if you feel strongly about this, you've rebuked harshly those who did do it.
 

Deacon

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I'll look for it. It's been on the news quite a bit. Apparently children are not transmitting this to adults.
Once again, news reporters often have no scientific background and are generally unreliable.

From the CDC (Updated to May 15, 2020)
Healthcare facilities should ensure that infection protection control policies and universal source control are in place to minimize chance of exposure to SARS-CoV-2 among providers, patients, and families. For infection prevention and control considerations for infants born to mothers with known or suspected COVID-19, please visit Considerations for Inpatient Obstetric Healthcare Settings. For infection prevention and control considerations for other pediatric healthcare facilities, please visit Interim Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Suspected or Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in Healthcare Settings.

Rob
 

Calminian

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I don't understand the snarkiness....

You of all people? I recall quite a bit of snakiness from you. Especially when concerns about the negative effects of the shutdown are mentioned. Funny how you're so sensitive to it yourself.
 

InTheLight

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You of all people? I recall quite a bit of snakiness from you. Especially when concerns about the negative effects of the shutdown are mentioned. Funny how you're so sensitive to it yourself.


April 17
InTheLight said:
I'm all for opening up the economy. I applaud Trump's outline presented yesterday as a template for the states to use. I couldn't find a thing I disagreed with.
Dr. Phil warns about dire health consequences of shutdown


April 29
InTheLight said:
Social distancing and stay at home orders have flattened the curve. The hospitals are not being overrun. It's time to sensibly open up the economy.
Death rate 0.5% not 3 or 4% for covid-19, WHO numbers were absurd
 
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